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01flux June 3 2005, 04:20:06 UTC
heh. I lived in the South, remember?

Its always a hell of a lot easier - for liberals and conservatives and anyone for that matter - to blame some other group, someone who's not them, someone they dont have to think about, than it is to go up to them and say, hi. who are you? why do you think what you do?

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kinfae June 3 2005, 15:13:33 UTC
I appreciate that...but it strikes me that 'Educate' would be a better rallying cry than 'Organize'.

As he himself said in his article, you can't organize unless you have people who want to do so. And that requires education.

Yes, the education should be undertaken from inside rather than outside. That's why I'm still /here/.

But education is the Way.

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01flux June 3 2005, 17:54:06 UTC
He mentions malcom x, and his understanding that he had to enducate african american before he could organize and unite them, draws a similar parallel.

I agree, though, you have to be *aware* you CAN do something before you can organize to do something.
But using one as a copout for the other is cheap - its more a matter of getting up and doing anything.

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steveness June 3 2005, 17:43:57 UTC
I want to be a beery subset of humanity.

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01flux June 3 2005, 17:50:36 UTC
You are a beery subset of humanity, steve.

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steveness June 3 2005, 18:19:13 UTC
WOOO! YAY KLOPEKS!

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silentclarity June 3 2005, 18:03:39 UTC
You might be interested in reading Thomas Frank's What's the Matter with Kansas?. Frank's a socialist so you have to keep that in mind - he occasionally lets that get the better of him - but it's got a lot of good analysis of why the people in the American Heartland tend to vote entirely against their economic interest.

JD

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01flux June 3 2005, 18:07:42 UTC
Thanks for the book rec!

Yeah, I can ignore some rhetoric (authors are people too) for an interesting, well-supported argument.

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rwx June 9 2005, 22:33:59 UTC
interesting reading. thanks.

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