Climate Camp

[0olong]

I wrote a thing about Climate Camp here: http://oolong.co.uk/oo/climate-camp

I think I'll post more about it later. I need to articulate my thoughts about non-violence a lot more clearly...

Comments

[momentsmusicaux]

I wish it *didn't* have the anarchic roots and the jazz hands bollocks that comes with that. It's irrelevant and gets in the way and puts people off.

[0olong]

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's irrelevant, though I figure it depends on your perspective. It's seen as part of a critique of capitalist society, a vision of a possible better world: A demonstration of a very different way of getting things done.

Which is all well and good, but it certainly puts some people off, and it's easy to see why you feel it gets in the way.

[momentsmusicaux]

> it certainly puts some people off

Hence it's disruptive. It lessens the impact of the campaign, because it puts people off from being involve (eg me) and allows people the campaigns could affect to dismiss it more easily.

Also, capitalism and ecology are not necessarily mutually exclusive. You'd need an economy that factors in the environment as providing a service, but green capitalism is not a misnomer. Hence it's irrelevant.

Bottom line: they're attention-seeking wankers hijacking a current a very serious problem for their own agenda. This always happens.

[0olong]

I think you're being a little unfair. If you've reached the conclusion that capitalism and sound management of the economy are in practice mutually exclusive - which is not an altogether unreasonable conclusion, based on the dramatic ongoing failure of all known capitalist systems to manage the ecology soundly - then agitating for the overthrow of capitalism as we know it, as a necessary precondition for sorting shit out, obviously seems perfectly sensible