Civil Unions

Oct 08, 2006 23:48

Today at church Fr. Randy gave a really good sermon on the definition of marriage, but it got me thinking. I tend to agree with a lot of things the Church teaches and stuff in the Bible, but a lot of things seem like they could only work in an ideal world. Not to diss idealism, because it gives us something to strive for. But seriously, it's ( Read more... )

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daydreamer1c619 October 9 2006, 13:43:19 UTC
i'm voting the same as you, not necessarily for the same reason (because i think theres plenty of people that can control themselves if they want to... any good priest/sister for example) but just because i dont think its our government's place to force people to do anything religious. theres no reason politically anymore to ban same-sex marriage (its not like we're worried about not having enough children to carry on our population). God gave us free will to chose how we want to live our lives, its not the government's place to impose on that free will unless its to protect people from harm.

thats my two cents :)

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all_that_i_seek October 10 2006, 00:15:40 UTC
I agree with you, Laura. I've been struggling to come to terms with the Catholic Church's stance on this issue, and after 2-3 years of being a "practicing" Catholic, I can't bring myself to agree with it. So I suppose I am not a Good Catholic in this sense either.

I also agree with you, Alison, that it is not the government's place to force a religious belief on people that not necessarily everyone shares. Religious institutions have the right not to allow same-sex marriage based on belief, but politically, everyone has the right to a government sanctioned marriage with all the benefits, whether gay or straight.

By the way, I feel better knowing that I'm not alone in some of my non-corresponding beliefs.

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daydreamer1c619 October 10 2006, 01:09:49 UTC
honestly, i think we should do how they do it in other countries (i.e. france) and have a distinction between civil marriages and religious marriages. if you want to get married, everyone has to get a civil marriage at the courthouse and then if you want to have your marriage consecrated in whatever religion you practice, then you process down to your church or synagogue or wherever and have the religious ceremony. and everyone should be able to get the civil marriage regardless of sexual preference. they could even call that a civil union, regardless of sexual preference. then religious institutions can handle their part how they want to.

the same reasons i'm against same-sex marriages (religious reasons) are the same reasons i'm against pre-marital sex, oral sex, contraceptive sex, etc. you dont see anyone pushing for pre-marital sex to be banned by the constitution.

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all_that_i_seek October 10 2006, 01:24:06 UTC
honestly, i think we should do how they do it in other countries (i.e. france) and have a distinction between civil marriages and religious marriages. if you want to get married, everyone has to get a civil marriage at the courthouse and then if you want to have your marriage consecrated in whatever religion you practice, then you process down to your church or synagogue or wherever and have the religious ceremony.

Wow, that is totally what I've been thinking! Religious institutions have the right to handle marriage the way they want to, but there definitely should be a distinction between civil marriages and religious ones.

lol, that is so bizarre, but I had nearly the same idea in mind. Just wanted to let you know. (Sorry Laura for taking over your comment wall!)

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