Comments | 1angrychristian: The government wants to adopt your kids

1angrychristian

The government wants to adopt your kids

Jan 22, 2007 09:44

The government wants to adopt your kids
One Angry Christian
1-22-06

This is where the Liberal Nanny government is taking us. I've been saying it for a while now that they're trying to take over raising our kids for us so they can indoctrinate them. Anyone listening? No. Of course not.

When they show up on your door step, and arrest you for bothering ( Read more... )

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katielilie January 22 2007, 16:01:47 UTC

I'm listening, and it disgusts me just as much as the "no smoking in YOUR OWN FUCKING HOME OR CAR when a child is present" law that was being talked about not too long ago. So eating too many cookies is bad for kids too, are they going to start legislating how many oreos a parent is allowed to give their kid in a given day? It's utter bullshit, and very scary. I listen, and I agree, I just don't know what can be done about it.

1angrychristian January 22 2007, 17:04:40 UTC

The day the government comes into my home and tells me I can't discipline my kids I'll likely move to Australia.

hollowpointslug January 22 2007, 16:33:27 UTC

I'm pretty conservative. Republican, NRA, all that. But, I DO favor this law. Perhaps if you actually stood and watched as someone hit a toddler you might feel differently.

This law boils down to two things.
1-the right of a toddler not to be hit
2-the right of a parent to hit a toddler.

Those two are essentially the conversing points. Choose your side. I choose the first.

1angrychristian January 22 2007, 17:03:59 UTC

how many kids do you have?

Just curious.

hollowpointslug January 22 2007, 18:08:14 UTC

None, I have a better qualification. I was a toddler who was hit, so were my siblings.

Isin't that like asking a person to qualify how many guns they have in order for them to have a position on gun control.

I could have 1 kid or 10. I am 1 man with 1 vote just like you.

Why are you so incensed about someone stopping you from hitting your kids? Just asking.

1angrychristian January 22 2007, 18:38:35 UTC

None, I have a better qualification. I was a toddler who was hit, so were my siblings.

Yeah. I was physically abused as a child almost daily so that means about jack squat to me in the area of "qualifications". I don't give a damn if you were nearly killed (which I was) that doesn't mean your lack of ability to differentiate between discipline and abuse is any more valid.

Isin't that like asking a person to qualify how many guns they have in order for them to have a position on gun control.

I could have 1 kid or 10. I am 1 man with 1 vote just like you.
On that you are correct. My point is that you have no experience raising kids and therefore have little real life basis for your opinions. Your vote counts, but your opinion is garbage, and based on pseudo intellectual crap taht does nothing but remove parental rights, and allow kids to go on mistrusting an impotent authority figure who has not the ability to enforce anything for fear of being reported ( ... )

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redstar826 January 22 2007, 18:56:32 UTC

wow, a heated debate in your blog that, for once, doesn't involve me.

Anyone listening? No. Of course not.

I've actually seen a lot of coverage on this, and discussions on this elsewhere on lj.

from the linked article: That's includes spanking hands, faces or bottoms.

ignoring the poor proofreading on that web site, this is still absurd. One of my parents' favorite stories is how when I was little if I was getting into something I shouldn't have, they would slap my hand lightly and say "no!" So eventually, when I knew I had touched something I shouldn't have, I slapped my own and said "no" basically beating them too it, which they thought was absolutely hilarious.

1angrychristian January 22 2007, 19:01:42 UTC

My son does the exact same thing, and in fact all I have to do now when he's into something is say "no" and he backs off. Keeps him away from ... ya know ... busy streets when we're at the park, parking vehicles when we're crossing a parking lot, hot stoves, boiling pots of water, knives, heavy objects in stores that aren't properly stacked that would crush him

but remember ... it's abuse

yeah, ummmm kiss my buttocks.

redstar826 January 22 2007, 21:16:11 UTC

mostly, discussions like this make me happy that I have absolutely no interest in being a parent (and being gay and all, it's not like I have to worry about accidentally becoming pregnant, thank God)

allykatt January 22 2007, 21:20:17 UTC

here, i think you dropped this on your way in...

=D

and i think you're more reasonable than a lot of people who ARE parents, so it's unfortunate that you won't ever be one.

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melvin_udall January 23 2007, 00:09:07 UTC

The Republic is indeed doomed. The entire next generation will be dominated by their children for fear of the government.

I admire you and all the rest hers willing to argue with the bleeding heart stupidity of HPS's extremism.

hollowpointslug January 23 2007, 00:50:43 UTC

bleeding heart stupidity

I generally consider myself to be a conservative person, though I am not
enslaved to any particular doctrine. I am ashamed to be one here. The flagrant anonymous cowardly name calling is girlish and silly. Men don't call people names when their hiding behind their computer. You articulate your position with logic and reasonable politness. Apparently hitting one's toddlers here is a neccesity, because teaching them thru example is impossible.

melvin_udall January 23 2007, 06:12:59 UTC

First, people who clearly know better but spell "through" like a brain dead AOLer I find extremely annoying. That's beside the main point but needed to be said.

I doubt anyone says teaching by example is always out of the question. Please point them out. If you can't do so please stop making false accusations. Nothing about such false accusations makes you appear manly, thoughtful, reasonable or any of the other concerns you mentioned. What they are saying, and you are choosing to ignore or attack, are two points, I believe. First, some physical discipline is acceptable. Second, government should avoid interfering with parents rearing their children except when absolutely necessary. Neither of those is an extreme position. Charging parents with a crime, and probably in front of their children, is radical ( ... )

1angrychristian January 23 2007, 13:40:17 UTC

Further, this is a community on the internet. EVERYONE is "hiding behind their computer."

It always cracks me up when someone makes a statement like this. Mostly cuz ... I mean ... well, what do you want me to do? Fly out to your house? I don't have the time, money, or motivation.

It's simply a means of baiting someone into escalating a hostile discourse. It's pointless drivel.

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