What'd I miss?

Jul 30, 2009 00:31

Just got back from Comic Con, and I guess that’s as good a place to start as any.

In a nutshell, fandom evolved. This happened while some of us were watching, but also while some of us were looking in the other direction, trying to focus a little on the crazy shit life was throwing our way.

But to make a long story short, we haven’t abandoned fandom ( Read more... )

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shrinetolust July 30 2009, 08:41:41 UTC
I'm not sure what you've been missing, but I know I've been missing you. :) xoxox

This is an interesting take on fandom, and comes right at the time when Torchwood fans are spinning themselves into the ground over the latest season and the destruction of their favorite pairing. The creator of Torchwood almost seems to have done it out of spite, and it may follow exactly what you're saying--some fans felt they had control over the series, and the writer wanted to let them know they didn't.

I've kind of always liked it when show or movie creators appreciate and acknowledge fandom, and occasionally throw them/us a bone to make us feel part of the experience--not part of the process, mind, just part of the family, as it were. But I sure as heck don't have an interest in my fanfic being quoted in EW, that's for sure. I have other outlets for fame-whoring. *G*

Welcome back to LJ. You know I'm always ready to perv. :)

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2_perseph July 31 2009, 06:34:08 UTC
I just watched all five parts of Torchwood Children of Earth today, following the wank and so forth. I also skimmed an EW article interviewing Richard T. Davis out of interest. And yes, he seemed so very irritated with the fans. He didn't seem to like "gay" being co-opted as a purely fannish/pairing thing. All around very interesting.

I too love it when we the fans just get an occasional wink and a nod. Or an outright tip of the hat. Other than that, similar to what you said, I wouldn't appreciate show creators coming in and telling me what to do in my fic. So it makes no sense that we want to tell them how to proceed with their own ideas.

I'm counting on you as always to be a pillar in temple of the perv. *climbs into your lap*

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kelleigh July 30 2009, 13:16:13 UTC
Wow, long time! It's good to see you, though!

Even being in the huge, warped fandom that is Supernatural, I agree with you. I don't really *want* to exist. I cringed when "The Monster at the End of this Book" aired because while a lot of fans rejoiced that we were out there and proud, I wanted to hide fandom away. I don't mind being acknowledged from time to time since we're still a large part of the show's viewers, but I certainly don't feel any sort of entitlement. Rather, I want to keep the fact that I write slash of the characters and actors a secret from the people involved with the show.

Seriously, SPN fandom is messed up. Especially the more public side, a.k.a. Batshit!Fandom.

Anyway, I'm GLAD you're back ♥, wayward mistress!

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2_perseph July 31 2009, 07:00:08 UTC
*hugs you for hours* Kells, we've been in crazy-ass, all-consuming fandoms, and lived to tell the tale. I read the original post as well as your own post on the behaviours at Asylum con, and I feel it's just easier for idiots get vocal nowadays. I go to the Supernatural panels at Comic Con, even though I'm the farthest thing from a fan of the show, simply because I think the Supernatural fandom is something like a control group experiment on what happens when fans completely let themselves go. And all I can say is, your attitude is the kind of thing that's needed to just keep fandoms going. No matter what some kinds of people are using fandom as a cover for (i.e. as an outlet for their own fucked-up attention-seekingness), you've got to just truck on. Few things satisfy like a good fandom, so why let rude people ruin it?

That said, I do not envy you being in that fandom. Oh my GOD.

Anyway, I'm GLAD you're back ♥, wayward mistress!

*giggles* YIS. *snoodles*

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culuyetille July 30 2009, 13:20:19 UTC
*applauds* thank you. It's terrible how there seems to be less and less focus on having fun and sharing it with fellow fans than on being all triumphant because YOUR ship became canon or some other equally worthless whatnot. I for one think that slash was more fun when we had to dig hard to get the subtext instead of making a soup out of the bones that are thrown to the fans.

Welcome back :)

and seriously? quilts for actors? wtf is up with that?

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2_perseph July 31 2009, 07:08:19 UTC
I wish actors and creators would start telling fans to back the hell up. Like a bucket of cold water on our heads or something. This movement to make ships canon is like the last straw in it all. Talk about not having boundaries. And then, like you pointed out, where would fandom be? What would be exciting to see about a manip or a piece of fanart featuring a pairing, when the show itself or a poster would feature it? How would we have that thrill anymore from the application of our imaginations? It's unbelievable. I feel we have to start smacking their hands like wayward children when fans get so shrill.

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elflady_2001 July 30 2009, 13:57:06 UTC
Here here! While I've left living people fandom (I'm in anime/manga and even then, I lurk, don't want to get involved in weirdness unless it's smutty!:P ) a while ago due to other reasons, I totally hear you about the mainstreaming of fandom. It just isn't right and feels like sell out. Difficult to put into words.

But I am most certainly glad to you see you again!!!

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2_perseph July 31 2009, 07:10:34 UTC
*throws arms around you* *holds you forever*

.... I want to say more but I can't. I've missed you missed you missed you.

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dangomango July 30 2009, 14:44:50 UTC
Being a semi-member of the Supernatural fandom, I can certainly say that "being in the public eye", as it were, has certainly done the fandom (and the show) no favors.

I'm friending you if that's okay - your post here is quite intelligent, or at the very least I agree with it :P

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2_perseph July 31 2009, 07:25:12 UTC
Being a semi-member of the Supernatural fandom

lol. I think I kinda know what you mean. Honestly, it's a show that, despite all its shortcomings, should have had me from day one. But what a straaaange fandom it is. Even my love for John Winchester has gone exactly nowhere because I open my mouth and then just sort of sit there for a while, watching the insanity, and then I simply shut it.

Thank you for friending me. Friended you back. Nice to meet you and hope we have some fun times coming our way.

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