Angel and Faith #2 (SPOILERS)

Sep 28, 2011 11:42

The reviews are all right on. This is a terrific issue. Some details and reactions  (apologies for no cut, but LJ keeps mucking with the formatting):
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sidhlairiel September 28 2011, 19:32:55 UTC
Great review. The more I read of Angel and Faith the more that I feel Buffy Season 9 is never going to compare, simply because, like you said, the Angel comics for the most part actually feel like a true continuation of the show. I can easily connect the events they depict to the TV canon but there is this disconnect with the Buffy comics I just cannot get over. It's a combination of a lot of things but the fact that the Angel artwork and writing are consistently stronger accounts for a lot of it. I really like what I've seen so far.

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2maggie2 October 1 2011, 02:23:32 UTC
Thanks! I think there are plusses and minuses to the writing style. But the plus for A&F is that the characterizations/situation do flow most naturally from the show.

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xc_runner50 September 28 2011, 20:39:05 UTC
Killing Giles the worst thing he has ever done? I'm not sure that it would even make it on the top thousand rankings list of evil acts that Angel/us has done, its only the most recent. Angel? Killed plenty of people and worse, Giles is only note worthy because he was recent and a main character cared a lot for by a majority of characters in Btvs.

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shipperx September 29 2011, 15:05:25 UTC
True. Giles should be symbolic of what Angel/us has done all along. The only reason why the audience is more upset is that Giles is the one we've cared about. But he's no different than the hundreds of slayerettes that were killed due to Twilight's war in Season 8. Heck, he's no different than the misguided and misled soldiers that Angel used to attack the Slayers. He's no different than hundreds of Angelus's victims. I'm fine with Giles acting as symbol/stand-in for Angel's crimes in as much as Giles packs the most emotional punch for the audience. But as far as Angel's crimes go, Giles' importance is only in just how common the circumstances of his death were in Twangel's grand plan.

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norwie2010 September 29 2011, 15:29:49 UTC
As Buffy said once: "What? And Mr. Henderson from the bank had it coming?"

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2maggie2 October 1 2011, 02:25:49 UTC
I'm reading this as a symptom of a problem, not a statement of what really matters. But that could be foolish optimism! Time will tell!

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ceciliaj September 29 2011, 12:37:01 UTC


The art works fine for me. But I'd love to see Dushku and Boreanaz act out the scenes between the two of them. The writing is so alive with their histories together -- it really does feel like a continuation of the show. More so than maybe anything I've seen in the comics so far. And we have a good emotional stew out of which all sorts of interesting twists and turns could arise.

YES! Fascinating stuff in your review. I'm so excited to see all this unfold.

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2maggie2 October 1 2011, 02:24:38 UTC
Me too!

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local_max September 29 2011, 17:23:41 UTC
Don't have it yet! *woe*

Later today, probably.

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2maggie2 October 1 2011, 02:24:54 UTC
Can't wait to hear what you think!!

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repetition anonymous October 15 2011, 14:25:44 UTC
Great thoughts. On this item: "She isn't able to help Angel in any meaningful way, but she owes him for having made a difference for her back in the day, so she's going to stand by him. We get a *lot* of voice over repeating this point. She also tells him that straight up. Either this is over-repeated, or the point is being stressed to explain why Faith is going to stand by and watch Angel pursue something that's pretty ridiculous."

Sometimes, in real life or in fiction, when someone keeps repeating something, it is for his or her own benefit. It's not the listener who needs the constant reminding. That may be the implication here. Faith must constantly remind herself why she's doing this, because she doesn't want to be doing it and she's not at all sure she should be. She's convincing herself, and she apparently needs a lot of repeated convincing.

Reminds me of Spike telling Buffy, as she insisted six different ways that their OMWF kissing meant nothing: "Convince yourself?"

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Re: repetition 2maggie2 October 20 2011, 15:07:52 UTC
Good point!

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