John Waters has offically become a total hack

[3rdworldcinema]

John Water's A DIRTY SHAME is one of the worst & most sociopolitically dangerous movies I've come across in recent memory. It's representation of sexual deliquents as uncontrollable and socially destructive is potentially catastrophic and will doubtlessly be utilized as repressive artillery by the right. I think its supposed to be sexual satire

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[klingrap]

Why would I love something that represents sexual delinquints as uncontrollable and socially destructive? I'm a sexual delinquint and I'm, like, in control and a productive member of society.

Unless I'm drunk, that is.

[3rdworldcinema]

ok, good; the thing is the movie is occassionally very funny, but mostly its viciously horny people causing a big ol ruckus

[klingrap]

Wait a minute, that sounds GREAT!

[lifenxcess]

Um, yeah, John Waters hasn't been good since Polyester. Maybe Desperate Living, but even then. He tried commercial which worked to a fun extent, but never could reclaim the edge of Pink Flamingo fame. AND he cast Melanie Griffith in a film. Need I really say more?

[minuhcare]

I saw a video not that long ago, produced by some right-wing religious group, that used nothing more than stock footage of Pride parades to prove that gays are to be hated. Perhaps they can use Waters' latest oeuvre to similar effect.

You should see the new Bruce LaBruce film. You would love to hate it for comparable reasons, as well as a few others, I'm sure. In it's favour, it will remain "underground", or at least will not receive a commercial release, remaining below the radar of right-wing lynch mobs.

[3rdworldcinema]

that's exactly it; A DIRTY SHAME reaches for mainstream spectatorship, as evident by its cast & its cute little hollywood structure. Labruce purposefully makes himself an underground figure via his experimentalism and, more practically, his lack of studio distribution. Ive thought on this actually: why are other "perverted" films less dangerous and, aside for Water's solicitation of a (generally) mainsteam audience, what's condemnable is that his "perverts" literally become a mob; it's just nuts, really -- I get pissed off even when lending half a mind to his irresponsibility; Im gonna stop. BAH

[minuhcare]

It's a pertinent issue - one that stretches far beyond Waters, who, despite his attempts, is not The Dirtiest person alive, and certainly not the most sociopolitically irresponsible - particularly this weekend in New York. I cringe to think that the velocity of the protest that will occur around the RNC will only give "reason" to unleash the tear gas, that will be conveniently on-hand, just waiting. "Look, oh righteous America, the commie fags outside are the real terror."

What's been sociopolitically dangerous is the growing visibility of perverts in mainstream media in the last decade, which, while being mistaken by said perverts for social and political advances, and therefore placating a majority of them, has served as fodder for the right, who have not been nearly so idle.

[3rdworldcinema]

Whats frustating -- and I dont know this, but I strongly suspect it -- is that Waters believes his representation is progressive, when it so directly feeds into the stereotype of sexual deliquents as distructive. The only real violence in such subversion is the friction and/or fractures it tears in the normative coda. Conservatives are so attached to prevailing orders of ethics that they often interpret a disruption of our "fundamental values" as an actual violence, thrusting ideations of the danger, violence and disorder upon their "illicit bodies." A DIRTY SHAME is very much a projection of these paranoid, insular delusions and watching Waters prevail over his ultimately repressive baccanalia with a light hand & a wry knowing smile is just infuriating.

My ex put my question to Waters and he just avoided it, talking instead about sniffing poppers on the Cyclone.

[grand_illusion]

come on, how sociopolitically dangerous can a john waters movie be? even if it Wants to be mainstream it won't be. can't the 'publicans just reference all the triple-gang-bang inter-species midget-porn my step-uncle directs? the midgets will go after your white daughters next!!! lock doors! however i respect the opinionation of your opinion.