Dative case weirdness

Jun 09, 2010 16:08

 The dative case always throws me off. I mean..the way it pops up all the time in places I do not expect it to be.
This is what caused me to write about it in an earlier post.But  I now know the answer to my previous questions about it.
Here's the deal:

1. Some verbs are WACKO and NEED to be used with dative case. Dictionaries will sometimes indicate ( Read more... )

dative accusative cases

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Dear, more examples, please thatmikhail June 10 2010, 10:12:29 UTC
Surely that'd be absolutely nice, I participate in this wish of yours to LJ ( ... )

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thatmikhail June 11 2010, 00:59:45 UTC
To tinkle, ting, ring - звонить!
To call - звать!
Звонить и звать - two different words. A telephone is like a bell so when in Russian you say Ring/tinkle/ting me a thing of yours is always and every time implied! - your bell which's your phone.
And according to the structure and rules of the Russian language you can change someone's thing by a pronoun.
Приходи ко мне - come to my place!
Позвони им - tinkle their phones!
et cetera
here are some good prepositions for this:
позвоните мне по телефону - by
позвоните по моему(этому) телефону - dail/call my(this) phone number OR use my telephone
позвоните мне на телефон - call my phone/me (not my e-mail, mail, telegraph or any other)
позвоните с моего телефона - use my phone
позвоните на мой телефон - dial my number, call me/my phone
I've just checked these prepostions with much concentration. I seem to have given they most correctly

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jasnaa January 15 2011, 23:12:33 UTC
you're right.
in russian to call someone by name or somewhere - звать, позвать - here is accusative
to call someone by phone is like to make a call TO somebody cause in Russian it is simply another word - позвонить, звонить and here is dative. And you are right: it's like the phone call is a thing which travels from one person to the other. You have nothing to do with that except to learn this meanings, but don't worry about that - I study German now and the situation is the same: we have different datives and accusatives, so I have to learn it. If you have doubts, just write in google the expression in Russian and look in different texts if it is correct - I always do smth like this))

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jasnaa January 15 2011, 23:14:30 UTC
or ask me - I hope, I'm able to explain

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anonymous January 31 2011, 16:58:41 UTC
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anonymous February 15 2011, 04:48:21 UTC
Great, i found what i 've been lookin for

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