Oh Ronald…why do our discussions always snowball out of control? You write one line…I write two. I write two pages…you write an autobiography. =P Now I have to write a novel
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well this is the second time I've been inclined to do this
anonymous
August 14 2006, 21:53:21 UTC
While I have a few things I would like to comment on I'm kinda pressed on time atm, and I know Ron won't be reading this until Thursday. What I will say is that I don't believe that Ron is really blaming teachers as much as he's blaming professors for not caring about their students. Personally I applaud grade school teachers as I cannot imagine the amount of patience it takes to teach kids. However, college professors need to be a bit more motivated. Now I'm not saying they need to go anywhere near the extent of a grade school teacher, but I would be willing to bet the college professors most people enjoy the most take more interest in their students than the ones everyone dreads to have for class. I mean students will learn more from a professor that is willing to put him/herself out to make the class mildly interesting than someone that comes in and sounds like they're reading you the textbook
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Nope I actually read it today
anonymous
August 15 2006, 04:03:50 UTC
Lets see, throughout your schooling experience you lived an average life. Yes, you had trouble with reading but that later eroded. In your family, academic excellence was something that was almost an understood accomplishment. Let’s have you move forward to about middle school. You were one of the average kids again socially and economically, but in the upper echelons academically. The success, accomplishments and recognition you earned for your hard work felt good. It put you on what felt like an equal playing field against what you like to call “the rich kids” as well as the other brains. Teachers and students alike admired you and your work but you always aimed for that social spotlight. Let’s have you move forward to High School. Here, you are known as one of the smart kids but there were naturally others. What made you stand out then? How come you could easily blend in with every crowd? I’d say that in High School you were that special “helper” friend to the socialites and general counsel to everyone else. This allowed you to
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Re: Nope I actually read it today
anonymous
August 15 2006, 04:05:09 UTC
What is so hard to understand about changing the world by fixing these? Perhaps your reading and comprehension skills are in need of work. Maybe that ADD kicked in and you stopped reading once you realized that I hadn’t accepted most of what you said. You most likely thought to yourself, “Well how could he? After all, he is Ron.” Maybe you ended up saying “its just like I expected, he missed the entire fucking point of this post.” Those are the only two options you explored to respond the way you did. Well, the answer was choice number 3, you said a lot of bullshit so I flushed the toilet. Luckily for you though, over the summer I learned how to speak idiot and was able to translate most of it. You are damn right I didn’t think of it in a “different way” because your “different way” is for the fucking birds Phil, re-read
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Re: Nope I actually read it today
anonymous
August 15 2006, 04:06:04 UTC
Upon revisiting your claims that sacrifice is the most important thing concerning change, again I say please, re-read. I did not misunderstand what you were saying about sacrifice its clear as day and in my previous comments I agree on how it fits into change. The fact that you missed the nail with the hammer is also blindingly clear. Sacrifice is a FUCKING COST OF EVERY CHANGE! Tell me Phil, say you are buying a car, is the FIRST THING that comes to mind HOW much money you will have to sacrifice? FUCK NO. Before you get there, DON’T you have to fucking MAKE a decision about what to do!?! Oh DEAR GOD, Where oh WHERE DO WE GET THE INFO NEEDED TO MAKE DECISIONS? Do I hear personal values somewhere out there in the crowd? No, I fucking hear sacrifices all over again. Let me simplify this shit for you. When I look at the car I decide, do I want to buy the car or not or can I buy the car or not (THIS IS THE FUCKIN BARRIER TO CHANGE THIS DECISION!!!). THE OUTCOME of this decision relies on WHAT THE PERSON IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE (time,
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Re: Nope I actually read it today
anonymous
August 15 2006, 04:07:07 UTC
The one about me needing crack was also great, I loved it. Let me let you in on a little secret, I’m fucking competitive by nature because it exercises the only dependent variable for success that we have direct control over, fucking effort (something you are still learning, poor fellow). If my personal value for school isn’t shit then why the hell not look for somewhere else to spend my time? Do you really think Mercer’s environment on its own created me? Why the hell do I crack the fuck out and just do enough to get by in school? Well, I obviously value the game more than I do what Mercer offers for the most part. However, my values are strong enough to ensure I leave what I deem as sufficient time for school. So, I play every game like its going out of style and devastate all of you guy’s level wise/skill wise. If I don’t right off the bat (rare), I’ll continue to exert effort until it’s done. Ever asked yourself why? Of course not, you are too busying assuming and making an ass out of yourself. You asked me to do what you do well
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Re: damnit ron
anonymous
August 15 2006, 23:37:30 UTC
On somewhat of a side note why don't you two put this arguement, yes it has become an arguement rather than a discussion, on hold until you are both back at school. I'd rather see you both come back on good terms than being even the slightest upset with each other because of this. Anyway Phil I'll see you friday and ron i'll catch you whenever you manage to catch me or on sunday, whichever comes first.
Words cannot ever end relationships, actions hold that ability. Phil's tirade while completely foolish and misguided, was done with good intentions. It is for this sole reason that my own response was done in a very "gloves on" manner. It was the same way with Nate, Hoof and even Owen. I respect his opinions but I do not agree with his reasoning. Further discussion on this matter knowing how potentially interesting it would become would prove futile. Both sides will stick to their guns and since we don't agree, in time, one will inevitably be proven wrong
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