The last quest of Harry Potter?

[_rp_zeal_]

No grand new discovery whatsoever, it's just that I've been brooding over the trip into the Forbidden Forest, and the Trio's attempt to get to the sorcerer's stone in PS/SS. Since I would expect book 7 to reflect book 1 'structurally', what I can foresee happening in book 7 are:

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[sistermagpie]

I can't believe I never thought of Harry learning about Snape from Draco. I mean, not that Harry has ever talked to Draco but if he were going to start (and the end of HBP makes that more of a possibility than ever) he actually would be a good source of information

[_rp_zeal_]

I must confess, HBP was the first book that made me see Harry might be able to learn a bit more about Snape from Draco, who *if* he finds out that Snape really was trying to help him, would have positive things to say about the man.

There's a lot of stuff in PS/SS that's looking forward to other books.

For example, the James/Snape Harry/Draco comparison, the significance of which in the series has not been completely revealed yet ;-)

Neville and Draco in their way actually are the important other kids in the book.

In different ways, aren't Neville, Draco and Harry ALL victims of Voldemort? And all through their parents too!

[sistermagpie]

For example, the James/Snape Harry/Draco comparison, the significance of which in the series has not been completely revealed yet ;-)

Yup--the first mention of the Prank is there, I think (though not as a Prank). Sirius himself is mentioned by name. The whole Voldemort story, obviously, is never resolved.

In different ways, aren't Neville, Draco and Harry ALL victims of Voldemort? And all through their parents too!

Definitely. They're all kind of set up to take over for their parents because their parents are taken out, too: Harry for James fighting Voldemort, Neville for his father in his grandmother's eyes, Draco for Lucius as a DE. Only it's not a good idea for them all to be their fathers.

[_rp_zeal_]

Sirius himself is mentioned by name

Which leads to my other little piece of theory- no one who wasn't mentioned in PS/SS would be terribly important in the final battle, I don't think. Sirius and the veil business would definitely be utterly crucial, for example!

They're all kind of set up to take over for their parents because their parents are taken out

Yes. Well it was because of their parents that the three kids came onto Voldemort's radar in the first place- Harry & Neville's parents had defied the dark lord three times, while Draco's dad failed him as a DE.

Haha they are the marked!Trio.

over from d_s

[baseballchica03]

Neville's obsene pe***-like pet plant

Neville's what now?!

Re: over from d_s

[_rp_zeal_]

Oh, you know, that cactus-like plant with an awfully long name ;-)

Re: over from d_s

[anthon1]

Mimbelus Mimbultonia, or something...

[go_back_chief]

I love the idea of Book seven reflecting book one, and it seems to point at that direction, indeed, since book 7 will not be at Hogwarts, but more "the trio out in adventures"-kind of book; after all, book one was probably the one who took least place at Hogwarts, proportionally. And I love your interpretation of the Forbidden Forrest scene, and I think you're right -the fact that both Harry, Ron, Hagrid, Neville, Draco and Snape were all, in different amounts highlightd in that book, signifies thatt they will all have roles, big or small, in the finale. (Also, they have all been in all the books since, which I think is a clue JKR has put in there "do not forget about them.) I think you're probably right about Harry parting with, or meeting, Draco last, though I see a finale confrontation between him and Snape coming between finale Draco-confrontation and finale Voldemort-confrontation. I also think Draco will somehow save Harry, or vice versa, because otherwise I don't see why JKR would have included that line about Snape/James being

[_rp_zeal_]

Harry, Ron, Hagrid, Neville, Draco and Snape were all, in different amounts highlightd in that book, signifies thatt they will all have roles, big or small, in the finale

Hehe, the 'fellowship of the ring' team sprang to mind :-P

though I see a finale confrontation between him and Snape coming between finale Draco-confrontation and finale Voldemort-confrontation.

Oh I think any variance (who comes in or leaves the team first, last or indeed at all) is possible! But out of curiosity, may I ask why you think so ;-)?

I also think Draco will somehow save Harry, or vice versa, because otherwise I don't see why JKR would have included that line about Snape/James being similar to Draco/Harry at the end of book 1.

It'll be nice, I think, but I guess not absolutely necessary? I've always seen the fact that both pairs detest each other and have a most hostile relationship what the similarity was referring to. So as long as this hostility between Harry and Draco comes to an end (I am hoping for a handshake that would hark back so nicely to

[stvincent]

This is a really interesting theory, and I'm inclined to agree (though the forest may be more metaphorical than literal, imo). I also thought I should point out that in the book, Ron didn't go with them into the forest (he was in the hospital wing for an infected "dog bite"). Does this foreshadow some sinister fate for him before the final showdown? I hope not. I've never subscribed to the "Harry's right hand" version of Hermione. (Not to put down others' theories/opinions, of course.)

[_rp_zeal_]

I also thought I should point out that in the book, Ron didn't go with them into the forest

You are so right! *hits forehead with SS*

Does this foreshadow some sinister fate for him before the final showdown?

The fact that he 'sarcrificed' himself in the Wizarding chess game later appeared somewhat ominous too... If I have to choose between Ron and Hermione as Harry's "right hand", Ron would be the much preferred candidate, for no other reason than I like the H/R interactions better than the H/Hr interactions (in a non-shippy way). What I don't see is if Rowling would leave Ron out of the final showdown actions, what is to be gained? Why would the story be more interesting/better without him?

[stvincent]

What I don't see is if Rowling would leave Ron out of the final showdown actions, what is to be gained? Why would the story be more interesting/better without him?

It wouldn't! <-- big Ron fan speaking

She's talked before about kids begging her not to kill Ron off (because the hero's best friend is always the one who dies), but (obviously) hasn't ever confirmed or denied the theory. Perhaps he'll die or recieve some life-threatening wound that prevents him from going with them into the final battle? :( That would make me v. v. sad ...