Affirmative Action

[_sameer_]

Alright, so here's the background, in brief: A lot of people have been mentioning Affirmative Action lately. Some in support, most in opposition. It bothers me to no end, because most of the people that state that they are in opposition to Affirmative Action are supposedly liberal, definitely white, and avowedly for the goal it espouses. So here's

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[_sameer_]

Thanks, Marina.

[marieange]

You know, I was just writing a huge speech in this comment box.

And then I realized: you probably won't care, because I'm a white chick with opinions. I think AA is flawed, yes, for the exact same reasons you do: it's inherently racist with the quota system (to me, it implies that people can't get into college on their own terms) BUT it is helping in ways.

But, yeah, I'm white - what do I know about anything? I can't possibly change anything, because I'm "the enemy."

And who called you a sand-nigger? You're Indian, dude.

[_sameer_]

Nobody called you the enemy. Nor do I feel that way, and I should probably throw in a disclaimer on this

[_sameer_]

Yes, they are. But that doesn't include all white people.

[angelocaduto]

Being white does mean you haven't been discriminated against. Try being a girl from a rural, religious area some time. Woo...I get a place in the kitchen! And I can't be nearly as smart as my male counterparts because I'm female and so must be just getting lucky with my guesses or be getting a break.

[angelocaduto]

Or...try to have a not-so-moral sexual orientation. That's fun too. Really shows who your friends are.

[_sameer_]

I meant, based on something you can't hide or change. You hypothetically could hide being homosexual.

I guess you could argue for being female as one of those. I still don't think that happens nearly as much, though. You don't see chicks getting shot at when they reach for their wallet in Portland, but you do see black people having that happen.

PS - I understand the idea that people discriminate against the intelligence of women. The difference is that you still get a shot at proving them wrong (exceptions exist, of course, but I don't think it's the rule. Prove me wrong, because I will never know what it's like to be female - I go by third-party indicators when I say it's "the worst," not emotion and experience).

[angelocaduto]

It's not just an intelligence thing even. It's still a belongs in the kitchen thing too. You can be intelligent and still be considered a thing. The valedictorian from Prairie a while back wasn't allowed to go to college. Her family was going to disown her if she did, so she worked as a receptionist until she found a husband and then was made to quit having even that job by him. Because that was what her place should be.

[_sameer_]

Your facts are acknowledged and can be labeled as suitable and valid premises for argument.

I respond to their relevancy above.

[_sameer_]

You'd be dead. And besides that, getting rich white males out of power wouldn't really fix the problem. In fact, it might perpetuate it. Just because I'm in favor of minority rights doesn't mean I want to subjugate white people.