please stop me from screaming out loud?

[_unhurt_]

i have lots of thoughts, opinions, feelings and etc. about The Riots, yes? but i also feel like - maybe? - reblogs on tumblr: sometimes not the absolute best way to get at the necessary nuances. YES. NUANCES OF UNDERSTANDING ARE NECESSARY HERE. (if i could work out where the "hash" sign is on a mac keyboard i would also have something to say about

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[hellison]

I have much rage, esp. re plastic bullets (NOT NON-LETHAL ACTUALLY) and the 'send in the army' crap.

But, thipe made art, so I feel better now

[_unhurt_]

well, they are non-lethal as long as they miss your vital areas! a bit like a knife! um...

have just seen thipeart. wish i could work out how to rightclick on mac so i can share the soothing with others...

[hellison]

i can email?

also, ICONS (the boris one doesn't icon so well i think)

[_unhurt_]

i can't even persuade c&p to work well for me - stupid not-my-laptop!

ahahahahaha ICON!

[china_shop]

I would like to hear more of your thoughts and opinions!1 (Or, at least, I would like to find an explanation somewhere by someone I trust to be reacting in a way I would agree with, if I had any clue at all what was going on. Which I don't, because I'm woefully uninformed. /o\ Hai.)

1 Which is not to say you should feel at all obligated to expound them, of course.

[_unhurt_]

well, they are in fact quite confused - but, it gives me some hope for humanity that you can actually express confusion!

my thoughts SUCK. i am somewhere in a mess of "oh SHIT people's HOMES/BUSINESSES/AREAS" and "isn't this a HELPFUL reason to not look hard at police actions esp. when people have DIED" and "awful things are happening and need to stop but this does not mean that any and all routes to stopping it are okay plus there is still that SMALL PROBLEM of the differential policing of areas based on race" (which should be phrased more strongly but i am kind of aware that this is not my rhetoric to chuck about so, i am chickening out). annnnd much of talking about this feels like i am saying "HEY! look at me being all UNDERSTANDING OF THE RACE ISSUES!!! [include here institutional racism; why some areas are super-poor compared to others; etc. etc. etc.] " re: which; my opinions are not... not actually the ones that should be considered! or anyway, the ones with [as in Should Have] any weight or relevance, even for my friends.

[china_shop]

i am somewhere in a mess of [snip]

Which seems like a mess I can agree with, so thank you! I mean, all I really know is that there's relatively widespread rioting, possibly sparked by the police killing someone(?). I figure that at least some of the rioters are protesting for valid reasons (and I should probably try to find out what they are, particularly wrt the race issues). I am sad that people's property is being destroyed. And I think it's extremely probable that at least some of the police are behaving as badly as some of the rioters.

[_unhurt_]

it's - i think, and am NOT AN EXPERT - sparked by 100% legitimate grievances [not necc. related to the instance that was the trigger], taken advantage of by others, but - crucially - the reason there is a bunch of people just waiting to take advantage? not unconnected to original spark. plus, the bad behaviour of a relatively tiny number of folk seems about to become a catch-all excuse to stomp on community responses. in short: people who were previously being fucked will continue to be fucked, with added anti-riot rhetoric, while people needing actual support in face of roaming mobs will get bugger-all.

also, i hate humans. brb, applying to become a robot.

[lazy_hoor]

I have read so much crap from the hang'em-flog-'ems and from the hang-wringing lefties, it would be nice to hear the opinion of a sane person. No, sane isn't the right word... I'll go with 'intelligent' instead.

I have been reading a bit about riots for my essay - the formation of the Metropolitan Police was a reaction to rioting and fears that the propertied classes were living in fear of the increasing masses of poor people who were coming to mess with their shit, or so they assumed.

So I can see the bigger picture with regards poverty, it just doesn't make me particularly sympathetic to people attacking people's homes and livelihoods.

[_unhurt_]

this morning i can manage only a slightly hungover "INDEED". (also, wait. was that a dig up there? is this connected to my noel fielding/lee mack text messages? if so: cruel!)

[lazy_hoor]

You say 'dig' I say 'backhanded compliment'!

[hellison]

Just linked to this above, but it's worth repeating http://rosamicula.livejournal.com/540476.html - very sane opinions from someone who teaches in these areas

[being_here]

I am not up to political or sensitive comment. I will join you in rending families though.

(and I pray for London. Often. Mostly because of thipe mind. We should all pray for London and its Cheeseboys.)

(Oh wait. I mean prey on not pray for. Sorry.)