also, still wearing half a dozen trophyshirts and the blood of his victims]
Y'know, not all of us are human, dumbass. I don't give a fuck about your dead planet's laws, and they're fucking stupid anyway. They brought this shit on themselves by trying to contain us.
Besides, it would've been more of a pain to keep them alive. Why bother?
I don't recall ever saying all of the inhabitants here were human, humanity is used in the context of treatment of fellow sentient beings.
You are more than welcome to disagree, or disdain any laws of my, when I left it, quite alive planet. In many countries that right to do so is considered one of the highest there is. You won't find me stopping you from disagreeing.
I'm not sure exactly how much of trouble it would have been to keep them alive, and given the outcome I don't suppose there's much reason to debate it now, is there?
The assholes who tortured us here looked pretty damn human to me, so don't tell me about your human treatment of sentient beings like it's something that isn't complete bullshit.
The winners decide what to do with the losers. It doesn't fucking matter if you think they all "deserved" it or not, it's what they get for siding with the losing team. If they wanted to live, they should've switched sides earlier and made themselves useful. They're the morons who thought they could get away with blowing us up without any consequences.
Keep up that attitude, and you're gonna find a knife in your back one of these days.
I don't know you, but you know what? My girlfriend was brought here with me. She was the first, and for most of my life, only person who ever loved me. They killed her one night and no one would give me an answer.
But I'm willing to bet that they didn't give her a trial. Why should we be better to them, after they chose to be here, kill our loved ones, and torture us?
The name is Lois Lane, reporter from the Daily Planet, Metropolis. It's only fair to let you know who I am if I am going to be public about this.
I'm sorry for your loss, I honestly am. I can't say how I would react in your situation, that sort of loss is understandably devastating.
I have no idea about what methods the former interns might or might not have had. But as to why we should be better than them..the fact that we can, we are is reason enough. I'm not, nor have I said there weren't people here who we're better off without, I just cannot condone wholesale slaughter.
I know about wholesale slaughter, I'm a goddamn vegan.
There was a time I might've agreed with you, but, well - the aim of this place is to break people, you know? And broken people is what they ended up fighting.
No one who was terminated has ever been brought back, or were you unaware that we're clones? Those terminated who come back are simply new copies. If you choose to believe the life of the first didn't matter because they were replaced, that's your choice.[Her voice is tired, and surprisingly, not argumentative. She was one of the ones that tried to protect life, but this woman's words bother her too much to remain silent.]
One of my friends has been brutally killed multiple times, in ways you couldn't imagine-he's lost so much here. Had his life and sanity played with by the interns. [Pause.]
I watched him go through all of this, just like I watched him kill mercilessly this week. Most of the people who did the slaughtering this week have stories like his.
If you could look any of them in the eyes and tell them those people didn't deserve it-and maybe some of them didn't-but if you could actually know what each person went through and then tell them they were wrong, well...then I'd have to wonder how human you are.
As I understand it, no one is sure just what the situation is about clones. I have yet to get any sort of consensus on it. I don't know how people are apparently dead and then returned, I don't run this place and I am no doctor. Fact remains these people had no such back up system, regardless of how it works.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't glad that I couldn't imagine that sort of horror, but I am sorry anyone had to suffer through it, or be left behind because of it.
With all due respect, I think you're missing part of my point. People were bond to die, that was inevitable. But the way in which it was done, the random and brutal way people were killed with no sort of question as to who might be responsible for what, I'm sorry I just can't accept it.
We're clones. It's conclusive. It has been for more than a year, people were just too afraid to accept it.
And I think you're missing my point.
I believe in justice. I believe what happened was wrong. I've died three times here, and watched them physically and mentally torture my friends and family for two years. I've seen them slaughter children and then laugh about it. They took my...[She has to stop to collect herself, and in that moment a bit of the broken sixteen year old that she is comes through, but she quickly gathers herself.]
They burned my Papa to death, made a new clone of him, and then burned that one too.
I fought to protect the staff. I fought to protect the people that took my friends and my family, the people I love, and threw them into an incinerator like they were so much garbage.
I don't want fault, or blame. If that was what I was after I'd be shouting for the person who did this, [and she gestures to the bandages, bruises and other obvious injuries she'd sustained protecting the staff] to be put down like a sick dog.
All I want is for people to think, and it wouldn't be the first time that wanting that has made me a hated woman.
they tortured and maimed and killed and mindfucked every single person i care about i did shit during the riot i would never normally do cant really bring myself to regret killing a few of those assholes
no would it have even been possible to know if wed spared them i bet every single one would have said they didnt do anything and what then should we have just let them keep on living here even the ones who really didnt do anything must have known what was going on here
Ma'am, I understand your points-what you're aimin' for with all this.
But, I can't agree. Don't think I can after how long the people I care about have been here and what happened. I can't just be the 'better man' for these people. I can't.
Sometimes, you have to be the monster you gotta be. Especially when they held people for years here and played with them.
There is that mysterious "They" again, I have yet to hear any proof that everyone who was killed was responsible for what happened. It's a big place, not all of the staff could have been qualified to run experiments. Some must have been plumbers, cleaners, cooks..mundane tasks still need doing even in places like this.
S'hard not to have a us vs them mentality when you've been here awhile. So- s'gonna be colorin' the fuck out of my tone. [he admits it at least.]
Like I told Sasha- some of them had to have some idea of what was goin' on- you don't just go into space without an idea of what's goin' down to some degree, even if they're doin' mundane shit.
See, that's all I'm asking for, is some thought about what happened. I cannot, and will not try to excuse anything that was ever done by the staff, and if I could take it all back somehow or make things better I would.
But, short of that I just want to get the idea out there for people to really think about what happened. Because right or wrong doesn't matter now, it's done and we all have to deal with it. I'd rather have us all dealing with it honestly.
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also, still wearing half a dozen trophyshirts and the blood of his victims]
Y'know, not all of us are human, dumbass. I don't give a fuck about your dead planet's laws, and they're fucking stupid anyway. They brought this shit on themselves by trying to contain us.
Besides, it would've been more of a pain to keep them alive. Why bother?
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You are more than welcome to disagree, or disdain any laws of my, when I left it, quite alive planet. In many countries that right to do so is considered one of the highest there is. You won't find me stopping you from disagreeing.
I'm not sure exactly how much of trouble it would have been to keep them alive, and given the outcome I don't suppose there's much reason to debate it now, is there?
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The winners decide what to do with the losers. It doesn't fucking matter if you think they all "deserved" it or not, it's what they get for siding with the losing team. If they wanted to live, they should've switched sides earlier and made themselves useful. They're the morons who thought they could get away with blowing us up without any consequences.
Keep up that attitude, and you're gonna find a knife in your back one of these days.
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And it wouldn't be the first time, I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
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But I'm willing to bet that they didn't give her a trial. Why should we be better to them, after they chose to be here, kill our loved ones, and torture us?
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I'm sorry for your loss, I honestly am. I can't say how I would react in your situation, that sort of loss is understandably devastating.
I have no idea about what methods the former interns might or might not have had. But as to why we should be better than them..the fact that we can, we are is reason enough. I'm not, nor have I said there weren't people here who we're better off without, I just cannot condone wholesale slaughter.
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There was a time I might've agreed with you, but, well - the aim of this place is to break people, you know? And broken people is what they ended up fighting.
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For what it's worth, I sincerely hope things get better for you, I honestly do.
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One of my friends has been brutally killed multiple times, in ways you couldn't imagine-he's lost so much here. Had his life and sanity played with by the interns. [Pause.]
I watched him go through all of this, just like I watched him kill mercilessly this week. Most of the people who did the slaughtering this week have stories like his.
If you could look any of them in the eyes and tell them those people didn't deserve it-and maybe some of them didn't-but if you could actually know what each person went through and then tell them they were wrong, well...then I'd have to wonder how human you are.
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't glad that I couldn't imagine that sort of horror, but I am sorry anyone had to suffer through it, or be left behind because of it.
With all due respect, I think you're missing part of my point. People were bond to die, that was inevitable. But the way in which it was done, the random and brutal way people were killed with no sort of question as to who might be responsible for what, I'm sorry I just can't accept it.
I don't believe in revenge, I believe in justice.
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And I think you're missing my point.
I believe in justice. I believe what happened was wrong. I've died three times here, and watched them physically and mentally torture my friends and family for two years. I've seen them slaughter children and then laugh about it. They took my...[She has to stop to collect herself, and in that moment a bit of the broken sixteen year old that she is comes through, but she quickly gathers herself.]
They burned my Papa to death, made a new clone of him, and then burned that one too.
I fought to protect the staff. I fought to protect the people that took my friends and my family, the people I love, and threw them into an incinerator like they were so much garbage.
But I can't-I can't fault the people who didn't.
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All I want is for people to think, and it wouldn't be the first time that wanting that has made me a hated woman.
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i did shit during the riot i would never normally do
cant really bring myself to regret killing a few of those assholes
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would it have even been possible to know
if wed spared them i bet every single one would have said they didnt do anything
and what then
should we have just let them keep on living here
even the ones who really didnt do anything must have known what was going on here
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But, I can't agree. Don't think I can after how long the people I care about have been here and what happened. I can't just be the 'better man' for these people. I can't.
Sometimes, you have to be the monster you gotta be. Especially when they held people for years here and played with them.
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Like I told Sasha- some of them had to have some idea of what was goin' on- you don't just go into space without an idea of what's goin' down to some degree, even if they're doin' mundane shit.
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But, short of that I just want to get the idea out there for people to really think about what happened. Because right or wrong doesn't matter now, it's done and we all have to deal with it. I'd rather have us all dealing with it honestly.
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