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Sep 15, 2005 17:52

This is just a stupid, illogical rant.
Feel free to skip it.

A fellow classmate wrote this after refusing the stand for the pledge:
"We then got into a short disscussion, which most of it i have blacked out already, but what I remember is what I asked him. "Do you know what the pledge means?" The guy jus looked back at me with a smerk and no ( Read more... )

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surazal_roman September 16 2005, 02:08:53 UTC
I don't stand for the pledge.

I do respect my country, thoygh. Very much. Maybe not our silly government but we have it nice here. It's dishonesty. What happens when I move to Canada? I already pledged my allegiance to the American flag and the democratic republic (maybe) for which it stands.

And the god thing bugs me.

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iwinandyoulose September 16 2005, 02:20:22 UTC
What he said.

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abac47o3 September 16 2005, 02:30:38 UTC
I think the reason this annoyed me so much was because she openly said that she hated America and that we all set stereotypes on her and "her people."
She's part Middle Eastern.

If you don't stand for the pledge, I don't mind if you have solid reasoning behind it.
And knowing both of you, you probably do.

It's action without a cause, what she's doinnn'.

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surazal_roman September 16 2005, 03:14:02 UTC
Her people, eh? Her.. family? the "my people" thing pisses me off. Her people are Americans if she is from this country. If not... she's a dirty terrorist.

If she hates America and we all (stereotype alert zomg) set stereotypes on her people then why doesn't she move away or something? Kill herself. Drive her to suicide, Alicia.

SHANNONONONONN Ms. Lee.

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iwinandyoulose September 16 2005, 23:17:22 UTC
Yes.

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bigben6522 September 16 2005, 04:08:52 UTC
Wow. That's ridiculous.

When you got a point, most literally BACK THAT THANG UP. (ie. back up the point)

Your entry was very well-written. Very thought-provoking.

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abac47o3 September 16 2005, 04:28:39 UTC
Thank youuu :)

It's kind of a scattered mess but ehhhh

whatevaaer..r..re./fsdfgsfggaethjtj

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solarisflere September 16 2005, 17:52:03 UTC
Alicia, I agreed with you at the begining, but I soon stopped.

Just because it's "not that bad" doesn't mean we should just accept the country as it is. We would be retarded to think, "well, it's not that bad, so I'm not gonna try and make it better." And as for this:

"Our freedoms that are abused and unappreciated by a large chunk of our nation."

ABUSING freedom? I highly doubt that one could possibly abuse freedom, seeing as my dicitonary tells me that freedom is "the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hinderance and restraint," and to tell someone that they're abusing their rights would be hinderance.

As for "unappreciated," I don't think that could possibly be the case either, since they ARE using their freedoms every day, as you so fervently pointed out.

Also, I don't know if you're aware of this- but our country requires that schools perform "one act of patriotism" per day. The pledge of allegiance is just an easy way to get that over with ( ... )

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solarisflere September 16 2005, 20:37:45 UTC
"uh, if the person actually wanted to pledge there unconditional allegiance to america, isnt that thinking for themselves."

Yes, until you actually make the pledge and the government starts making decisions on its own. At that point, you've already sworn your allegience and any decision made by the country is the one you have got to make. You don't get to pick and choose which ones you're going to go with or not. You just pledged allegiance. It's out of your hands.

"your arguments are scattered."

Well thanks for providing reason for this claim. I can see by the quotes you cited from my arguments that they are indeed scattered, and that I just need to pick up my dolls and go home.

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