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[lasthani]

 My sister and I were out to lunch the other day, and I asked her if she'd heard about the 40,000 plastic fetus thing yet.  (Here, for anyone who hasn't seen it.) Naturally, this lead us to deeper conversation, and I was pleased to hear that although she is SDA and pro-life, she doesn't think that decision should be made for other people. She's

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[allerion]

I mildly disagree with you there. I think the existence of a soul in a fetus should be one thing the mother weighs in her decision. That being said, I don't think that anyone's belief in there being a soul makes the abortion more or less "guilty".

However, I agree that it should hold no relevance in the legislation of abortion. The existence of a soul cannot be proved or disproved, and therefore cannot be used as evidence for personhood. And, given my personal view on a soul's interaction with abortion, I don't think the existence of a soul should affect legislation or the woman's choice. But then again, people have different viewpoints than I do.

[freed_wings]

Tehe, I feel like a fool, but... can anyone even really define soul? I mean, if it's just a ticket to the afterlife and someone believes that an embryo has it from conception, then what does life matter at all? It's just one step in the road to many more. Skipping this step can't possibly be all that important, unless God's really anal about getting into heaven or something.

[roseofjuly]

Agreed.

[allerion]

I have a rather non-mainstream view of a soul's entrance into a body, so please bear with me.

1) I'm not sure souls exist as we humans have constructed them, but assuming they do:
2) I think souls of aborted feti either get back in line to be born (and I believe this holds for both 1-life-on-earth religions like Christianity and infinite-resurrection religions), or they go straight to the afterlife, whatever that may be. In a Christian worldview, I believe they go straight to heaven, for they have not sinned. I specifically do not believe they ask Jesus why they were aborted when they can look down from heaven and see exactly why for themselves.

[purpledusk]

I am an atheist and do not believe in the existence of souls. I do not see it as a valid argument in terms of abortion because even if souls do exist from the moment of conception, there are so many fertilized eggs that slough off like so much dirty water naturally. It seems wrong to me that one could argue against a woman taking control of something her body does naturally to begin with.

[freed_wings]

True.

[likeawoman]

those plastic fetuses are ridiculous

that said:

I don't believe in souls.

I believe that "too late," for all practical intents and purposes, is when the baby is born. anything else puts the rights and safety of the mother at risk.

[nemo_wistar]

I've always felt that if the soul enters the body at conception, it was due to a profound lack of planning on the part of God, seeing as how a significant percentage (I cannot recall the number) of fertilized eggs never implant, and just get flushed out of the body

[nemo_wistar]

... oh, and I think those 40,000 plastic fetus things are goddamned stupid and a waste of resources.