jakshadows, do you have a specific link to a specific news article?
I ask because a lot of stem cell research talk is sort of a misrepresentation of what actually happens (i.e. having little to do with destroying embryos sometimes) and I just want to see what is specifically under discussion here.
This is more about Obama's executive order and how a few states are reacting to it by drafting legislation to protect embryos.
States like Georgia and Oklahoma (according to that recent article). And New Mexico to name a few of the more prominent.
(To be honest, I had posted this a few weeks back I think. It's taken this long for it to get past the moderator's queue and I'd forgotten all about it.)
Gotcha. I know about the Georgia bit. I've got a friend who's a Legislative Aide at the Capitol here in Atlanta.
Really, on one hand, there shouldn't be an argument. We're talking about small collections of cells that frequently don't make it to fetuses in the first place. The science behind it is adding a hormone first that prevents it from becoming a fetus (or something to that effect, I am by no means a biology major) THEN working with the cell itself. This really is the only way to study how our bodies heal themselves and develop.
It really is sort of like saying that you're not allowed to look at sperm or eggs under the microscope, donated sperm or eggs, because that prevents the two from developing into life. A lot of people fear progress that will go against their preconceived notion of how the world works
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I agree that it's a bit overblown. Jersey (Princeton and the surrounding areas) seems to live in it's own world and has been doing this kind of research for a long time.
The funding though.... The government funds a lot of things I disagree with myself, and I've asked that question before. That missile shield thing comes to mind...
I think the side of those against abortion rights was pretty weak to begin with. I don't think religious views should influence decisions the government makes regarding scientific issues, and I hope that the President's ruling will allow new advances to be made in medical science. I think the legislation they are trying to pass in Georgia is ridiculous. What are they going to do to give an embryo the same rights as a born child? Will there be an investigation into potential child neglect every time a woman has a heavy period that may actually be an embryo being lost? Are they going to make it illegal for women of childbearing age to buy large amounts of vitamin C or any other natural supplement that can induce periods/ cause an embryo in the early stages to be miscarried?
I don't think religious views should influence decisions the government makes regarding scientific issues, and I hope that the President's ruling will allow new advances to be made in medical science.
You can be against the destruction of human embryos without being religious.
I am open to the possibility of God, but I do not follow any particular religion. I am not a complete dunce as far as science goes as I do have a Bachelor of Science in Biology. With this in mind, I still do not support stem-cell research that requires the destruction of embryos, because I find it to be a sanctioned equivalent of murder.
They were already destroying them to begin with. They were slated for destruction. The only difference is that now, they can be put to some beneficial use.
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I ask because a lot of stem cell research talk is sort of a misrepresentation of what actually happens (i.e. having little to do with destroying embryos sometimes) and I just want to see what is specifically under discussion here.
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States like Georgia and Oklahoma (according to that recent article). And New Mexico to name a few of the more prominent.
(To be honest, I had posted this a few weeks back I think. It's taken this long for it to get past the moderator's queue and I'd forgotten all about it.)
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Really, on one hand, there shouldn't be an argument. We're talking about small collections of cells that frequently don't make it to fetuses in the first place. The science behind it is adding a hormone first that prevents it from becoming a fetus (or something to that effect, I am by no means a biology major) THEN working with the cell itself. This really is the only way to study how our bodies heal themselves and develop.
It really is sort of like saying that you're not allowed to look at sperm or eggs under the microscope, donated sperm or eggs, because that prevents the two from developing into life. A lot of people fear progress that will go against their preconceived notion of how the world works ( ... )
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The funding though.... The government funds a lot of things I disagree with myself, and I've asked that question before. That missile shield thing comes to mind...
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I don't think religious views should influence decisions the government makes regarding scientific issues, and I hope that the President's ruling will allow new advances to be made in medical science.
I think the legislation they are trying to pass in Georgia is ridiculous. What are they going to do to give an embryo the same rights as a born child? Will there be an investigation into potential child neglect every time a woman has a heavy period that may actually be an embryo being lost? Are they going to make it illegal for women of childbearing age to buy large amounts of vitamin C or any other natural supplement that can induce periods/ cause an embryo in the early stages to be miscarried?
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You can be against the destruction of human embryos without being religious.
I am open to the possibility of God, but I do not follow any particular religion. I am not a complete dunce as far as science goes as I do have a Bachelor of Science in Biology. With this in mind, I still do not support stem-cell research that requires the destruction of embryos, because I find it to be a sanctioned equivalent of murder.
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The only difference is that now, they can be put to some beneficial use.
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Waste not, want not.
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