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Oct 03, 2008 10:09

look, i'm not an obama fanatic. i'm definitely not a democratic fanatic. there probably isn't anyone on capitol hill or near it or even looking at it that is as socially liberal and fiscally conservative as i am ( Read more... )

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aishuu October 3 2008, 19:15:33 UTC
Nail on the head on all accounts. I voted for McCain in primaries, but the selection of Palin gave serious rise to the issue of his judgment.

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absenceofmind October 3 2008, 19:24:17 UTC
the best i can do is to believe it was a purely political judgment (and by all accounts, apparently it's working, jesus christ on a pogo stick). i can't respect him for that, but i can understand it, i suppose. the saddest thing is that he may have definitely voted with his conscience prior to this election, but he's clearly had to throw that over in order to win over the hard right.

election politics suck more ass than a rimming elephant.

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acchikocchi October 3 2008, 20:27:38 UTC
god, i've talked this issue to death and i only want to cry... more. i'll just say this: on a petty level, i really, really, really wish she wasn't from alaska. WE DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION. XD

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absenceofmind October 3 2008, 20:28:51 UTC
petty? I WISH SHE WEREN'T A WOMAN. we don't need that kind of representation, EITHER.

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funkyfuzake October 3 2008, 20:47:32 UTC
The thing that really irritates me about Sarah Palin and the hype she gets (or once got; she's been slipping, yay!) is that some people actually think she's some kind of representation of the so-called ideal/average/normal American. She believes in God and the Bible, she hunts, she has a folksy accent -- and therefore, this makes her "more American"? When did this stuff suddenly become standard of Americans? She's no more American than little ol' agnostic me, or the other candidates for that matter. Why do people buy that shit?

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absenceofmind October 3 2008, 20:50:11 UTC
if the average american believes in creationism i will slit my wrists or move across the border, i swear.

where do you live, though? =/ because i hate to admit it, but there actually ARE states where uh. that kind of image still applies. not so much the east or west coast, but there's a lot in between, and um. let's just say i was in ohio and someone totally said to me, "your english is really good," like it could never have occurred to him that i might be a born-and-bred american citizen. just because i'm asian. so yeah, those people, scary as it is, are out there. who do you think RE-ELECTED BUSH?

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funkyfuzake October 3 2008, 21:19:49 UTC
I live in Michigan. It's an interesting state because although more people there vote Democrat than Republican, the votes are pretty concentrated in some areas. The part of Michigan I live in, for instance, is historically conservative.

The image DOES still apply in some places, and that's what makes it so terrible. I don't know; I just don't think these people have a good grasp on a realistic society sometimes, and their idea of a true blue American does more harm than good. Just because it's what they see and what they like doesn't make it the "right" image, y'know?

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absenceofmind October 3 2008, 22:13:01 UTC
yeahhh, michigan is...not uniform. i mean, it has detroit, and then it's got suburbs, but it's very far from being a red state on the whole, you know? i mean those states where you don't even need to look to know they'll vote repub, just like new york is pretty much an easy dem win. never having LIVED in truly conservative state, i find it hard to believe they really exist sometimes, but oh man, they do. =/ just like people who believe obama is muslim exist. and people who would never vote for a black man. and people who still think that saddam hussein was behind 9/11. and people who vote for creationism to be taught in schools. i mean, i could go on, but that would just depress us both.

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wintersjuly October 4 2008, 00:13:09 UTC
i would never vote for anyone who's answer to anything related to foreign policy is that russia is close by. i mean, SERIOUSLY? i'm chinese, does that mean i know anything about chinese policies and politics and am qualified to make important decisions on it? hell no.

plus, i don't care if she's a woman, mother, or robot or whatever reason people have been drumming up to vote for her, she doesn't stand for anything i believe in, even while we're the same sex and i don't know if that makes me sad that women's rights have so long to go that we can still hate ourselves or that it infuriates me because she's a woman and proclaims things that set us back years and years of progress.

(thank god i live in australia)

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absenceofmind October 4 2008, 01:29:17 UTC
it makes me spit blood to think that ppl actually compare voting for her to voting for hillary clinton, as if they could POSSIBLY be anything alike. hillary is by no bloody means a raging liberal or even a militant feminist but she at least is a seasoned senator and cares about things i can actually support. and she can actually hold a decent intellectual debate instead of relying on her fucking toothpaste grin and mascara.

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tokki_chan October 4 2008, 04:10:20 UTC
I think a reporter from the NY Times pointed out that the truly frightening thing about Palin is that she doesn't understand the basics of how the federal government works--and even worse, she doesn't exhibit any curiosity or desire to learn it. If anything, I think this debate has definitely illustrated that. She's literally treated it like some sort of final exam or something: cram a few days for it and then forget all about it. That is just scary.

On a related note re: Obama. Since when does "educated" = "elitest"?

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