On Abuse Team, or Facing the Era of Total Alienation

Jun 19, 2005 18:13

The folowing is my translation of the text written by a rabbi Avrom Shmulevich (avrom), a leader of the "Be'ad Artzeinu" movement. He is a traditionalist Jew, to whom I hold a great respect. Avrom lives and works in Israel, but he is of russian origin and his LJ is written mostly in russian. I would like to emphasize that he did not participate in "anti ( Read more... )

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gillen June 19 2005, 22:55:44 UTC
What a load of crap. This guy thinks Keynesian Liberalism is on the rise? Israel must have an annex of the Hoover Institute. Sadly, its the Hayek/VonMises/Friedman crowd in control these days. But I suppose he'd like them.

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alexakarpov June 19 2005, 23:00:56 UTC
Oh no, he wouldn't like them (and I dislike that libertarian crowd myself).

I think what's happening is that corporations are so intertwined with traditional authority (government etc) that it is indeed hard to tell, whenever it is government who interferes with market of if it's market who pushes government aside. Anyway, they both are a single Authority.

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gillen June 19 2005, 23:35:28 UTC
Government has ceased to exist except as an enforcement arm of the corporations, yes.

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killhamster June 19 2005, 23:41:55 UTC
oh good job deleting that comment. makes you look like quite the advocate of free speech.

as i said in huge red text before, nobody gives a fuck so stop posting this shit.

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alexakarpov June 20 2005, 00:08:01 UTC
Posting "NO ONE CARES" with letters of the size which don't even fit on 2 screens is not a "free speech", it's plain stupidity and prevents others from reading the text, really. I thought you'd realize that. You see, I'm not even talking about how arrogant (and ignorant) a person must be to pretend he speaks for "everybody" - and saying "no one cares" means speaking for, literally, everybody. Too bad you made me to explain that to you - now you look even more stupid. Oh, right, no one cares.

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killhamster June 20 2005, 00:08:57 UTC
guess what? no one cares. they still don't.

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alexakarpov June 20 2005, 00:19:53 UTC
Even in cases when it seems to be true, it shouldn't stop the person from speaking his mind. For you never know whose ears your word may fall unto. Not this time, mayhaps, but some other day it surely will.

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33mhz June 19 2005, 23:48:01 UTC
what

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killhamster June 19 2005, 23:56:31 UTC
comment-deleting faggotry is what

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33mhz June 20 2005, 00:00:13 UTC
uh oh

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killhamster June 20 2005, 00:02:34 UTC
it's incited a dangerous internet rage

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hardvice June 19 2005, 23:49:19 UTC

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tl;dr version killhamster June 19 2005, 23:57:45 UTC
I'M RUSSIAN AND SOME RUSSIAN LJS WERE SUSPENDED FOR BREAKING THE CLEARLY POSTED RULES AND WE'RE ALL POPULAR AND IMPORTANT LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME

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Re: tl;dr version hardvice June 20 2005, 00:01:10 UTC
thanks.

See? That was not so hard to say in 100 words or less.

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Re: tl;dr version alexakarpov June 20 2005, 00:57:18 UTC
Well... it is definitely not the content of the post above. Not a word. Sorry. In fact, you looked so smart writing that last comment, that now I'm kind of ashamed to tell you that you've totally missed the point.

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darkanansi June 20 2005, 00:12:06 UTC
Communism told you what to think and what to say

Now communism has gone you think anything goes.

Now you face capitalism. Instead of one large machine telling you what you can and can't do, everybody can do it. Welcome to our world.

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alexakarpov June 20 2005, 00:14:15 UTC
Excuse me, but what do you know about the thing you call "communism"? And, really, when was the last time you actually told someone what to do/not to do and was listened to?

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darkanansi June 20 2005, 02:34:09 UTC
when was the last time you actually told someone what to do/not to do and was listened to?

Daily.
And also on a daily basis someone will tell me what to do, and I will listen.

What you gain on the swings, you lose on the roundabouts. It's a juggling game of powerplay within powerplay. Some battles we win. Some we lose. And the game goes on.

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bigturtle June 20 2005, 10:16:44 UTC
The majority would always lose. This is by design.

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