Even if it is considered disjointed by yourself, it was well written nonetheless and made sense.
Just remember that you can't patronize your own group, only lightly branding a few members with the single flaw of eccentricity, while (probably not purposely) making the entire 'A' group seem like it's acting on an impulse against each member of yours. Most of the offences tonight were against the more outgoing members of the 'B' group (I only remember a single offender, though), I believe, and although that obviously doesn't justify the offences in any matter, it's an example that there are exceptions to and in both groups, which means not all are (or should be) considered the same as others in a group.
As for the B group's faults. Yes, I left many of them out. I sort of summed it up at the end by saying that each group has somewhere that it has been wronged as well and an area where it IS wrong.
Both groups have their share of flawed people...in fact, we are all flawed. Being humans.
That's why i'm so keen on speaking in person. It is much easier to get these problems resolved and become aware of new or unknown problems
Oh...and our Monday group is at the Speegles if you can make it.
I thought I would state that, for as you might know from a few other debates and arguments against something (perhaps on the Battlefield 2 Forums?), people that see if the majority of more negative points are against themselves alone, even in just the beginning of a statement, they might take it that the argument is biased or unfair towards themselves. While you (very wisely) added the statement at the end showing that both sides are at fault, the rest of the thesis might not seem very balanced out to the same people.
Of course, as you stated, speaking in person is probably the absouloute best way, provided there's no needless interruptions or changes in subject before an issue is resolved, because any mistakes can usually be pointed out and corrected, and you won't have to take steps to do all that above, thanks to quick input from both sides. I believe both groups can be mature enough to avoid flinging insults and arguing baseless arguments in any instance.
Aparently I didn't clearly state that both sides were at fault. But no matter...Mr. Any had taken it up...so at the very least this has gotten attention. And that attention will hopefully bring this into more personal conversation.
You should join the PBF forums...I never go to the gaming part...jsut the rants and raves. It's alot of fun arguing and hearing about stuff. Or have you already joined?
I would suggest that instead of posting this you actually try and talk to people first. All I can see coming from this is more disunity. While you may not have meant it to sound this way… it just looks like an attack on “Group A” and nothing else. I know that there are different cliques and that there is fighting between them but I think it would be good if everybody could just talk it out face to face.
Im totally for this, and im glad its out in the open.
But I just would like to point out that a few months ago...during the summer, I believe me, Alex and even James Theisen mentioned this...But no one believed us :(
Anyways im glad its going to be adressed by Mr.Andy in youth. I also like the fact that it was written to get more peoples attention faster, as I believe most people check their emails many times a day even when they should be doing school
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Just remember that you can't patronize your own group, only lightly branding a few members with the single flaw of eccentricity, while (probably not purposely) making the entire 'A' group seem like it's acting on an impulse against each member of yours. Most of the offences tonight were against the more outgoing members of the 'B' group (I only remember a single offender, though), I believe, and although that obviously doesn't justify the offences in any matter, it's an example that there are exceptions to and in both groups, which means not all are (or should be) considered the same as others in a group.
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As for the B group's faults. Yes, I left many of them out. I sort of summed it up at the end by saying that each group has somewhere that it has been wronged as well and an area where it IS wrong.
Both groups have their share of flawed people...in fact, we are all flawed. Being humans.
That's why i'm so keen on speaking in person. It is much easier to get these problems resolved and become aware of new or unknown problems
Oh...and our Monday group is at the Speegles if you can make it.
Thanks again Alex.
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I thought I would state that, for as you might know from a few other debates and arguments against something (perhaps on the Battlefield 2 Forums?), people that see if the majority of more negative points are against themselves alone, even in just the beginning of a statement, they might take it that the argument is biased or unfair towards themselves. While you (very wisely) added the statement at the end showing that both sides are at fault, the rest of the thesis might not seem very balanced out to the same people.
Of course, as you stated, speaking in person is probably the absouloute best way, provided there's no needless interruptions or changes in subject before an issue is resolved, because any mistakes can usually be pointed out and corrected, and you won't have to take steps to do all that above, thanks to quick input from both sides. I believe both groups can be mature enough to avoid flinging insults and arguing baseless arguments in any instance.
Anyway, I'll try to make it to the study!
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You should join the PBF forums...I never go to the gaming part...jsut the rants and raves. It's alot of fun arguing and hearing about stuff. Or have you already joined?
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My theory is proven and a solution held by everyone is furthered.
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trust me...it works
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But I just would like to point out that a few months ago...during the summer, I believe me, Alex and even James Theisen mentioned this...But no one believed us :(
Anyways im glad its going to be adressed by Mr.Andy in youth. I also like the fact that it was written to get more peoples attention faster, as I believe most people check their emails many times a day even when they should be doing school
*cough andrew cough*
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