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Feb 02, 2008 23:11

I just posted some of this as a comment to pyrophage's lj, and it got me riled up enough that I wanted to give it more of an audience ( Read more... )

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bugsybanana February 3 2008, 17:51:11 UTC
Welcome back!

No fan of Clinton, I just worry that Obama, even if he does win the election, isn't strong enough to stop the bleeding either.

Plus it's by no means certain that he'd win. He is still black, he is still too widely misapprehended as not-Christian, and the right wing punditocracy has been so relatively nice to him that either they see him as easy pickings versus the GOP candidate, or they think he'll be an asset to furthering their agenda one way or another.

I'm still not a registered Democrat, so this ain't my fight anyhow.

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acrobatty February 3 2008, 23:07:02 UTC
Thanks, good to hear from you, too.

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osewalrus February 3 2008, 19:27:50 UTC
There Clinton enthusiasts. In fact there are a lot of them. They are the "Soccer Moms," the yuppies, and the other folks that the DLC has courted for years. In particular, there are a large number of boomer women who loooooove Hillary Clinton with the same sort of passion that folks in Washington DC used to show to Marion Barry. She _IS_ them.

I happen to agree that Clinton is more likely to lose than Obama, especially against McCain. Hillary supporters continually underestimate the sheer strength of her negatives even in the Democratic party. But I do not discount the 20% or so of the core democratic ticket that genuinely worship her and believe that those who do not "hate strong women."

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Not seeing it acrobatty February 3 2008, 23:11:37 UTC
Maybe I'm reading the wrong polls -- but I just don't see these people. Maybe it's a DC thing.

Even if there really are that many of them, they'll vote Democratic in November whoever the candidate is, so I'm not worried.

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Re: Not seeing it osewalrus February 4 2008, 04:10:15 UTC
True, they will.

I'm more worried about Latinos going for McCain, but can't do nothing about that.

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