Femininity

[additudeproblem]

According to some rants on the internet I've been coming across lately, more and more people are complaining about the views of being feminine in today's society and are sick of seeing that femininity = a bad thing

Comments

[sayaxsora]

I don't think men have more strength, but otherwise so. true :|

It's just like how people want "strong female characters" and by "strong" they mean '"manly". No. "Strong" means "Well-developed" with depth and motivation on her own and she doesn't need to kick male ass for it.
I know it's just fiction but it gives some view of the creators from real life and people who view it.

[additudeproblem]

When I said stronger, I meant in terms of physical strength. In a general sense, men are usually stronger than women. But you're right; strength in terms of character is not really based in gender. There are males and females that either have strong, fleshed-out personalities, and some that are plain and mainstream. :/

[sayaxsora]

I know and I think that women are statistically as strong physically as men. To put it stereotypically: who brings all those groceries worth godknowshowmanykilograms home?

That's true. There's no reason one can't be feminine AND strong. There's a good blog post about that by Nostalgia Chick from ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com, which I really look up to, if you want to read more about it.

http://wegotclass.wordpress.com/2011/02/20/late-night-thoughts-on-the-impossible-standards-we-put-on-female-characters/

[tillyanimegirl]

Men aren't stronger then women, there too much of a wimp to let women prove their strength to them cause they are afraid of hurting girils. I could kick a guy in the balls and not have a second thought, which I have done so, many times, at school :\
I blame the females that are afraid of everything! (like my cousin Sarah)

[additudeproblem]

I wouldn't say it's wimpy; it's just chivalrous (which is really just polite, glossed-over chauvinism). Most men don't hit women because they believe they are physically stronger and thus see it as taking a cheap shot. But yeah, if there were more women that weren't so afraid to throw a few punches, maybe we'd have less of that. >_> (not that violence is ever a good thing)

[tillyanimegirl]

What's chivalraous and what's chauvinism?
And what do you mean violence isn't a good thing? D:

[additudeproblem]

Chivalrous: Being kind and courteous to women out of honor and some other nonsense. Basically being Mr. Nice guy so she'll like him.
Chauvinism: Sexism. Discriminating against women.

Violence is only good if you're defending yourself. Never start a fight, but always finish it.

[liam_sensei]

I've found this kind of issue is a company to company thing. I've had some jobs that didn't give a crap that I was male or female and I've had one job where I hit a glass ceiling. Even in my current job When I interview people, I do notice a significant difference between when a person speaks to a male reporter then speaks to me, though sometimes this can work to my advantage: sometimes they say stupid stuff to me that I quote them word for word on

[additudeproblem]

Yeah. Business, being as formal as it is, usually has a tendency to be more discriminatory. You know why that is though, right? Because most large-scale companies are owned by the older generation, which is comfortable with treating women and minorities differently than white males. It's disgusting, but slowly that generation is dying out and making room for more equality. :)

Our company booth is by a Citgo station. xD That's all I know. Oh, and it's called Spotlite Artistry. They don't have a website yet, but I'll be getting it up soon lol. ;)

[crescent_moony]

I'm gonna go against the grain of the comments and agree with you on this-- men, 9 times out of 10, are physically stronger than women. That's just a biological fact. Women can bitch and moan and deny it, but unless they go to their gyms and start pumping iron every day or so, that's just the way it is. I have little brothers. I used to be able to beat the crap out of them. This is no longer the case, now that we're older... and I actually DO work out more than them. Blame Darwin or something, I guess

[additudeproblem]

I wouldn't say I'm being treated unfairly, just differently. :/ They treat me like...a woman. xD Idk, maybe I'm really the only one who has a problem with that. I just wish I could be one of the guys sometimes. Like, I walk in on a conversation some dude and his buddies are having over a girl one of them went out with or whatever. As soon as they notice me, they shut up and apologize. That drives me crazy! Finish your damn story! Maybe I could give you a few pointers on how to get some ass on the second date! I am in no way surprised that you are sex hounds. :| Why do you think this is news to me? xD

Idk. When I look at a man, no matter how attractive or ugly, charming or assholish they are, all I see is another person. I want to be on equal terms with this person. It doesn't matter what gender, race, age, or size you are. What bothers me is that all they will ever see me as is a woman...not a person. :| I hope that makes some semblance of sense. xD

(And thank you dear <3)

[crescent_moony]

That does make sense. I know that's how I see the world, too. And I think it's how most people see the world... it's just that those that DON'T make the biggest stink and leave the biggest impression. But that's how it goes with everything, as we well know. *coughtrollscough*

Ah, I see the problem. Well, I think a lot of that might change once they get to know you... Though, of course, you'll have to put in effort, too. You know, offer a story or try to join in, give them a reason to see you as more than "the new girl." And I mean, yeah, it's annoying, but you do have to give them credit for being polite...? ^^; I'd much rather THAT be your issue than to find out they're smacking your ass as you walk by and calling you "doll" or whatever. Because clearly you work in the 1940s.

♥

you are the manliest maddiest man I know

[boys_love_boys]

I don't know who women are deluding when they say women are stronger than men. I'm sorry, but physically, women's bodies were not made for brute strength. This isn't rainbow happy land where everyone's equal. I wish I lived in sexy androgyny land, but we don't. Sexwise, women have their pros and cons, and men do too.

In the end, it's business, and it's reality. Pretty much as you pointed out. At work, it never bothered me when management would make men do heavy lifting over the girls... it's only common sense and keeping people from unnecessary injuries. LOL

I do think that making you nothing but a promotion girl seems pretty disgusting, but hey... it might be easy and a lot of fun if you make the most of it and make it fun. I think you're smart enough to assert yourself and your skills/intelligence, and despite the job you're assigned, I'm sure you could still manage to help out in a more practical way.

Re: you are the manliest maddiest man I know

[additudeproblem]

Yeah, when heavy lifting is in order, it just makes more sense to have the stronger people do it xD Which are usually men. And that's perfectly okay! What I don't like is that I can't just talk to a guy as if I was a guy. xD I can't point to a hot girl and ask 'Would you tap that?' without the guy thinking he's going to offend me. If I was a dude, he'd have no problem answering. -_-

I'm not just a promotional girl. I make a lot of their graphics and I'm currently making their website. But still...it just feels like chauvinism. It makes me feel less than human and that fucking sucks, man. >_>

Re: you are the manliest maddiest man I know

[boys_love_boys]

If there's a huge muscular woman, then by all means, go for it. Haha. And yeah, I know what you mean by that. I think as time goes by, though, they'll learn that you are that type of person they can talk to that stuff about without fear of offense. [nods]

And well, there you go. Design the shit out of their website and everything, because you're awesome at it. Play up your strengths and ignore the genderp. It does suck, but unfortunately, most workplaces (and people) are still like that. :[ That's society for you. [slow, unenthusiastic clapping]