That's another point - there are plenty of so-called nice girls who can make a similar complaint about guys only being interested in girls who're deemed sexy but generally happen to be shallow/bitchy/notnice as well.
Agreed. Intellectually, I think I understand what's going on here, even if emotionally I just don't get it.
To put it bluntly, males around age twenty have libidos on overdrive. Nice girls are less likely to, erm, satiate such an interest.
That said, even on my hall last year, which is generally acknowledged to be the black pit of hell so far as the charecter of its inhabitants was concerned, there were four guys who rose above such problems. So the gentlemen are at least 1/6 of the population. Rather depressingly low, but not horrible. I'm inclined to think there's something other than arithmetic at work here.
My perspective on all this is kind of skewed by the fact that I just don't date and never have. So while I don't date my male friends, I don't date anyone else either.
My view on dating friends goes like this, though. I'm ridiculously cynical about romantic relationships. Assuming monogamy, you can only ever have one at a time, and every one you have will end through some sort of break-up except the one(s) that end because one or the other of you dies. Break-ups are often quite unpleasant, and frequently end with both parties on bad terms. Friendships, on the other hand, are not exclusive and have the potential for a much longer self-life. Turning friends into dating partners seems to me like a great way of losing friends. Ignoring what this simile seems to imply about the relative values of friends and lovers, because that's not what I mean by it, it's like taking money out of your savings account and going gambling. Yes, you might strike it rich, but you probably won't, and you'll come out of it with a lot of disappointment and
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Let me say to begin, for I feel in the interest of both science, fun, and the sake of the debate itself I must respond, that I in no way intended to indict you or your family or your familiars; I know so very little about these love lives that it would be quite silly of me to play psychologist. I was reflecting more on myself in times past when I myself have felt the brunt of the "friends ladder" as the more popular culture terms it, and making comparisons and logical conclusions based on the differences between my experiences where I did and did not get the girl
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To put it bluntly, males around age twenty have libidos on overdrive. Nice girls are less likely to, erm, satiate such an interest.
That said, even on my hall last year, which is generally acknowledged to be the black pit of hell so far as the charecter of its inhabitants was concerned, there were four guys who rose above such problems. So the gentlemen are at least 1/6 of the population. Rather depressingly low, but not horrible. I'm inclined to think there's something other than arithmetic at work here.
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My view on dating friends goes like this, though. I'm ridiculously cynical about romantic relationships. Assuming monogamy, you can only ever have one at a time, and every one you have will end through some sort of break-up except the one(s) that end because one or the other of you dies. Break-ups are often quite unpleasant, and frequently end with both parties on bad terms. Friendships, on the other hand, are not exclusive and have the potential for a much longer self-life. Turning friends into dating partners seems to me like a great way of losing friends. Ignoring what this simile seems to imply about the relative values of friends and lovers, because that's not what I mean by it, it's like taking money out of your savings account and going gambling. Yes, you might strike it rich, but you probably won't, and you'll come out of it with a lot of disappointment and ( ... )
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P.S. i still do believe that girls are completely insane. don't trust them.
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