Comments | afallenautumn: Haven't posted some news in a while.

afallenautumn

Haven't posted some news in a while.

Oct 21, 2004 13:55

Someone looking cause problems in Ohio's very important election?
http://www.cincypost.com/2004/10/18/absen101804.html

Even MORE election troubles.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/20/Pasco/College_freshman_part.shtml

I'm noticing some kind of trend here..
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04294/398767.stm

This is why southern politicians bother me
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goodbyehector October 21 2004, 12:20:32 UTC

eh. not looking good so far at all =\ its just going to get worse the next 12 days. and probably after that.

falsefashion October 21 2004, 13:01:53 UTC

someone looking to cause problems in Wisconsin? project vote?
http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/sep04/262511.asp
http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2004/09/30/local/iq_3133196.txt

democrats allowing felons to vote in Ohio and Colorado?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49741-2004Oct20.html

Kerry claim victory before it's confirmed?
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041021/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_day_after_strategy_12

This is why northern Politician's wives bother me!http://news.yahoo.com/ ( ... )

goodbyehector October 21 2004, 19:04:40 UTC

i only have one comment on the draft bill. as Rangel had stated when he introduced it. he introduced the bill to get people thinking about the draft. such a bill is and was never intended to pass through the congress =p

falsefashion October 21 2004, 19:15:57 UTC

Oh I know the intentions of Rangel, he even voted against it this time. This isn't the first time he's done it either ... it's actually not even a big deal. But my point is democrats have been using the draft as a scare tactic. President Bush has said repeatedly there will be no draft. Of course some will say you can't trust a politician. Ok, so lets look at the facts. The idea of reinstating the draft has continuously been from a Democrat, this past recruiting year ALL military branches have met or exceeded their recruiting goals, not the mention the US Navy having to give sailor early discharges because they had too many enlisted. Congress made it clear they won't support a draft when they shot this recent bill down 402-2. So it's clear they are using the draft idea to scare the uneducated who aren't aware of the points I just made. It's a cheap trick.

goodbyehector October 21 2004, 20:58:33 UTC

yup. this is true. but both sides are using several different issues as scare tactics. so it doesnt surprise me. both sides prey on the uneducated and try to seduce them into thier circle. thats just how politics is played.

its actually rather effective.
after considering that bush has deceived and lied to the public before doesnt really make what he said about the draft more true. personally. i dont see a draft happening. i think it still might be possible, although i dont think such a thing is going to have the support of congress.

you have to look at it this way. the bill accomplished what it was supposed to do. it got people thinking about the draft again. which is important. both dems and reps should be thinking about the draft.

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falsefashion October 21 2004, 18:10:29 UTC

Ok, real question here ...

I know you feel very strongly on animal rights, you even altered your diet to support that view. You speak out against animal cruelty, you post a lot on here about situations where animals were treated badly ... So I have to ask why you don't voice your disgust when animals were shot and killed (which is clearly visible in this photo) by the Candidate you're voting for? Not to mention the gun situation.

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break_n_reality October 21 2004, 19:02:47 UTC

cause Joe's only ideal candidate is himself!!! :-P

No one is perfect for the job... every American knows that.

falsefashion October 21 2004, 19:17:43 UTC

actually, for each individual that's true ... we would be our only perfect candidate.

But this wasn't a comment based on who's right for the job. This is more of a personal believe question. I was simply asking why he isn't crying out about this certain act of "animal cruelty". This had nothing to do with who is best for the job.

break_n_reality October 21 2004, 21:31:10 UTC

I understand your point...

but one can support and vote for Kerry and still not believe in everything that Kerry stands for.

Everyone has their flaws... and well... like Joe, I don't believe in any form of hunting, or animal cruelty. I may not take it to the full extreme since I do eat meat... but I do support Joe in everything that he stands for. And I think the same goes for Joe towards Kerry... supporting.

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afallenautumn October 22 2004, 09:50:58 UTC

I just don't see how that's relevant at all. George Bush hunts as well from what I've read in biographies of him. That's their buisness what they do for their hobbies. All of my roommmates hunt. It doesn't mean I'm not their friend. It doesn't mean that if I were a manager and needed someone to help run a buisness of mine,that the fact that they hunt would make them any less of a person. I don't expect anyone to look down on me for being a vegetarian. The same way I don't look down upon people who hunt. I don't agree with it. I just don't do it. But I dont look down on the people who do.

falsefashion October 22 2004, 12:58:09 UTC

Well, That might be. But you have posted a PETA site that was flat out insulting to people who do eat meat. Claiming those of us who do are "dumb", "killers", "cruel", and many other unfair adjectives. Now, I'm not saying you should dislike the guy ... what concern is it of mine if you like him or not? My point is, I've seen you speak out against groups or individuals that performed this type of thing that you obviously do not agree with so why not speak out when someone you like does it as well? You despise the act of killing an animal for a sport, John Kerry advertised himself killing birds as something good for the sake of votes ... which makes the act that much worse. I'm just curious why it's a pick and choose issue.

afallenautumn October 22 2004, 13:20:47 UTC

I myself have never called anyone that eats meat "dumb","killers", or "cruel". It's not a pick and choose issue. I've told any people that I dont agree with the fact that I don't like the way he talks about hunting. I dont like hunting period. But I feel that he is better suited for the job of president than what we currently have. I support that. To me, the idea of voting for Kerry isn't a one issue thing,so speaking out against him or anyone shouldn't be either. I have never spoken out against anyone's beliefs on hunting unless they have attacked mine as well. If Kerry came out and said "fuck animal rights" I would speak out against him. He does a lot of things I don't agree with,but he does not personal attack my beliefs.

falsefashion October 22 2004, 13:34:27 UTC

no no no, you're getting this totally wrong like the person up there did. This has nothing to do with the race for president. We could take John Kerry out and put in say ... Michael Moore, or Ted Kennedy, Baraka Obama ect. My point is someone that you would support or agree with in other issues, you are less likely to speak out against when it comes to the issue with hunting for sport than say if Dick Cheney was in ohio broadcasting and bragging about "we all got one" while a dead bird is being dragged along. This has absolutely nothing to do with voting for someone. You could have said "Ok Mr. Kerry not cool" yet still say ... "yeah, I'm not a fan of that at all but that doesn't override my many dislikes of Bush". See what I'm saying ( ... )

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