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[ajacazz]

Philip started a nice trend in his LJ, and I've been thinking a lot about the questions that he's raised. So from here on out, my LJ is going to still contain some random shit from my skull, but will be primarily dedicated to important concepts that I want my friends to discuss, learn, and discover all there is to find out based upon our little

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Part I of Philip's comments

[twistedraccoon7]

Well, since it is 3 AM, i'm not sure how much i can get to but here it goes

(extention of part I)

[twistedraccoon7]

Once again, i'm not trying to offend anyone, but can you seriously say that you can fully put your faith into something that has no physical evidence, nothing you can put your finger on, nothing you have truly expirenced, nothing ANYONE has expirenced but a bit of luck and some embellishment? Can you truly say that you are right? that you see the light? even though if you were born to a different faith you would be sure you see the light there too? Would you walk off a ledge without looking down first?
THAT is what people need to do! Look down! See where you're falling! Take a step back and look at the situation. Don't be led by blind faith, make your own decisions. I'm not saying what is right and what is wrong, i'm just echoing the words of a great man when i say, BE YOUR OWN MAN!

Re: (extention of part I)

[wizwar_guy]

philip, i must say, you are a wise man.

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[meansnoworries]

Everyone follows something, whether it be the wisdom of Jesus, or the wisdom of an unnamed wise man.
i'm just echoing the words of a great man when i say, BE YOUR OWN MAN!
No one is apparently their own man, are they? ;)

Re: (extention of part I)

[twistedraccoon7]

The point I would like to stress, is not the fact that people don't follow anything. I have clearly stated that through my argument above, and it is even followed up with the fact that I say I am "echoing" the words of Thoreau when I say, "Be your own man." Everyone obviously believes in something, because if they didn't, people wouldn't have anything to live for. What I am saying is, how do people blindly put their faith into something that has NO proof and NO evidence? (rhetorical of course, unless you can enlighten me) My view is that a person should base their morals and beliefs not off of a single doctrine at all, but off of their own personal view of what they believe is right and wrong. Sinning, for example, does not fit into my state of mind, in the way that if i want to do something, and it fits in with my personal morals, then its not wrong. If i don't want to do it, then i won't. there is no sin for me.

[kimisneat]

um

i second that?
haha
i have a lot of thoughts, but its 3.40, and i got a date tomorrow
haha
later on though <3

[wizwar_guy]

we aren't so much "just animals", it's more that we don't have some supernatural gift that makes us somehow unaffected by the basic laws of nature and genetics. we are indeed just animals, but animals that have the intelligence to not only realize that we are held by human instinct, but also why, how, and for what reasons. i wouldn't go so far as to say we are without sin. i tie sin to ignorance. we are ignorant, and the less ignorant we are, the more we can sin. i'd say a sin is denying intelligence, going against what we already understand. sin is reverting to ignorance. the devil? a simple, easy to understand embodiment of a hard to understand concept. and that leads to... god? and heaven?

i'll leave that metaphorical chain of thinking to free interpretation.

[madhadder123456]

I wouldn't say were reverting to ignorance exactly.. It's not like were pretending to be ignorant so a grown person can kill another person to benifit them, they know that's wrong, but when some african spears another african over some cheetah hide, that's a diffrent story. They actually are ignorant. How far does that go sin wise? They don't know it's sinful. Is it still sin?

[wizwar_guy]

no, it's not sin. it's only sin if it goes against your own knowledge. to that culture killing for the hide is acceptable, and that is because they are ignorant to our own morals. so it's not a sin.

[twistedraccoon7]

While I agree that humans are animals, we can go further and classify them on an even smaller scale: (in no exact quotation of Mr.Smith) Humans are a virus, simply put. We arrive, pillage (use up resources), expand, repeat, etc.

something to believe in

[n0turavrggurl]

i agree with brendan. good and evil are completely gray. what you believe to be evil in one second may change in the next. what i do believe in the the human spirit. The human spirit has amazing powers, when strong. sounds cheesy...but there is more evidence supporting the strength of the human spirit than there is evidence in Jesus being the messiah.