Gay Rights

Oct 06, 2006 09:21

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kliedel October 6 2006, 14:20:59 UTC
I hesitate to reply. I believe in all of their legal and civil rights. I think they should be allowe dto be legally married. However, and I know this is going to lose some pc points for me, I'm not sure I feel that they should be allowed to be married in a religious ceremony. I don't know why I'm partially against it, but I don't want to debate it. It's just an internal struggle I have. If I were solid in my faith and knew exactly what I believed, then I would give a definate answer. It's weird because my head is saying "God understands", but this time it's my heart that's saying, "God meant man for woman and woman for man".

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alendark October 6 2006, 14:38:49 UTC
"It's weird because my head is saying "God understands", but this time it's my heart that's saying, "God meant man for woman and woman for man"."

Says who??

Which God??

What Religion??

The only thing that dictates that man is for woman and woman is for man....is society, a 2000 year old book that has been re-translated and interpreted several hundred times, and some stuffy old men who happen to have a decent amount of power in the world and the ability to convince people who cant think for themselves that they have all the answers and will gladly provide them.

"It is a fine thing to establish one's own religion in one's heart, not to be dependent on tradition and second-hand ideals. Life will seem to you, later, not a lesser, but a greater thing."
D. H. Lawrence (1885 - 1930)

This has the potential to be a very good conversation. It also has the potential to be a very friendship endangering conversation. All I can say is, tread carefully. :)

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natalieae October 6 2006, 19:35:17 UTC
I'm with Katie on this. My God says man for woman, woman for man. He also says "judge not lest ye also be judged," and that every sin can be forgiven with prayer and repentence. Is being gay ok? It wasn't God's intent, but He also is understanding and forgiving of everything. We as a society should accept that there are men who like men, and women who like women, and our Constitution allows it, although there have been un-Constitutional laws passed that forbid it. We as a society should not restrict it. Let everyone be with whom makes them happy, in my opinion. But I agree with Katie, not in a Christian ceremony. Civil, sure. (and no, to me Christian does not equal Catholic, just for information)

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blackdragon420 October 6 2006, 21:06:08 UTC
Uhm, I don't really want to spark a debate but, we don't know God's intent, we know how it's been interpreted by people throughout the ages. If he TRULY intended for it to be man for woman and vice versa, why then was woman an afterthought and made from Adam's rib bone?

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childe October 6 2006, 15:49:22 UTC
I believe in human rights, but I'm not reposting a guilt-based meme.

If you don't believe in gay rights, then just ignore this.

This falsely places everyone who doesn't re-post this meme as someone that doesn't believe in gay rights. It's a logical fallacy, but I can't remember the technical name for it. It's used a lot in politics. "You're either voting Republican, or you're with the terrorists." That sort of thing.

So, I'm ignoring it, and still believing in human rights. :)

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alendark October 6 2006, 15:58:15 UTC
You can read it however you like. I prefer to look at the intent of the message then the improper use of verbage. Any message could be overanalyzed by someone and something will be found lacking in that message. That is both the beauty and the horror of the written word, so I felt it was far more important that I look at the intent of the message which I took very simply to be ( ... )

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childe October 6 2006, 15:59:46 UTC
I agree that the support behind the meme is good. And I do support human rights.

I didn't mean to come off as snarky as I did, I guess. My apologies. :)

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alendark October 6 2006, 16:02:51 UTC
I didnt see you as being anymore or less snarky then you normally are. It just seems a lot of people are taking offense at the wording of this meme and ignoring the overall goal. While that is of course the individual persons choice, I think they should stop and consider it from all angles and then make a decision.

I still think the best course of action for people who view it from your perspective would be to rewrite it and post it in a less verbally "abusive" format.

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