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[altoidfowler]

So I'm in a music history class right now. After getting clusterfucked by chemistry, it's nice to listen to Chopin all day and watch winter settle in over the hills. As a result I'm doing a lot of music-related stuff both in and out of class lately. In addition to noise-rock projects of various natures (covers of Heroin and drum machine/recorder

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Remember that movie "city slickers"?

[xitsme_itsmex]

I think that those of us who live in the city do forget about our small town comrades in the same way that people in small towns forget about the fact that racism still exists. we're not confronted with rural poverty on a daily basis, and we don't see the devastation that it inflicts on entire communities. I am totally with you on the urban provinciality issue, though: Because I grew up in this huge city, I take a lot of things for granted, like the fact that I don't need a car to get around. I'm sure that transportation is a huge, painful burden for people in small towns who have been ruined by poverty. Birdsall and I actually talked about this issue at length, and I think he helped me understand it. We in urban areas often have a very negative view of people who live in small towns-- Not like Ames, but places like Mt. Vernon. You'd be surprised at the things people say to me when I say that I go to school in Iowa. Or maybe you wouldn't be; I bet you deal with that all the time. But in Chicago, we look at "downstate"

Re: Remember that movie "city slickers"?

[altoidfowler]

You see, I don't think that small town folk in general feel that racism no longer exists. Granted, this is because a lot of small town people actually are racists (and anti-Semites and homophobes). And granted, we (we meaning Northern rural Americans, not Southerners) aren't exposed to racial discrepancies as frequently as urbanites are. Yeah, it sucks when people discount everything you say about the way the world works because you're from Iowa. See: Resignato, Schroeder, the list goes on...

[szintri]

I see the same views in the the way NYC folks talk about "upstate" New York. (Again, this means everything that isn't new york city or its suburbs). Apparently the upstate folks are being subsidized by NYC. They resent things like the extra money which goes to maintaining the roads connecting the rest of the state. And seem to regard the farmers of New York as only a step or two from those those crazed southerners they see in movies like Borat.

[_sagesse]

i guess i choose to be irritated with not city slickers or small towners but with suburb-of-big-city-ites, many of whom are aware of neither urban nor rural problems. then again, i also feel sorry for them for having to grow up in a place that could be anywhere.

slivovitz??