Rammbelings and weirdness.......

[amanda20]

Ok, so I came on to make an update this morning after looking at my freinds updates and when the update page came up it said 'Restore from saved draft' I was like 'Hmmmmm wonder what that is' so I clicked yes. I put the post I made last night into the window. So I thought maybe I wrote it but didn't post it, but apperantly, I did post it, so, I

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[gilgurth]

WE've known that pre mongolid/american indian/inca/maya/olmec humans from europe hit america... it just looks like they died out before that group arrived, that or there were so few that the genetic makeup of the 'native' population didn't even flinch while absorbing it.

And it's great to watch all the people saying China beat Europe to america, by a good 60 years, forgetting the Vikings who did get here (and who did let that be known, if obscurely)... a good 400 years before the rest of us.

And did the romans get there, or the greeks, off north africa, blown west... and no ability to return?

The only thing that counted was the ability to do something with it ;)

[amanda20]

You're talking too far into recent times. I'm talking about /before/ there was a native population. The /first/ people here. Vikings didn't land for several thousands of years after the time period I am talking about. The theroy has always been that the mongolids traveled down between the ice sheets, over the land bridge, well new evidence does suggest that they possibly and likely boated over, the oceans were much smaller then. In fact from geological evidence it is suggested that in a hide boat one could have made the trip across the atlantic in 3 weeks. This is all way way way before Vikings though. And we are talking about cacasoids on the /west/ coast first. That they traveled across asia and into NA. The time frame of the finds and radio carbon dating shows that the second is most likely, they were absorbed into the population, they were able to extract some small DNA smaples from a few of these skeletons found. The time frame I am talking about it about 12000 years before present, long before the vikings came over. We are

[gilgurth]

a few things

there were no ice sheets. sea level sunk due to ice ages, they travled over land, lush rich sea bed land... wasn't ice and wooly mamoths. They might not have needed long range boats, sink sea level by 30m...

and yes, we're talking 10,000-50,000 years ago for the Asian and first Cacusoid visitors. I just was pointing out that I've noticed a big push to give China credit for 'discovering America' ahead of colombus, ignoring Eric the Red and Leif Ericson (Eric's son, ha ha, love those sir names in Iceland... women would be Ericsdottir)...

[amanda20]

What do you mean 'there were no ice sheets'? It was thought for decades that they traveled down between the cordilleran ice sheet and the laurentide glacier. And, the time frame that the first peoples came over in there were wooly mamoths. Thats the time frame I am talking about, ice age and wooly mamoths. If you read People of the Raven, no, at the time it is set in there are no wooly mamoths, but the first of the books, when they are talking about the Mongoloids first comming over, there are wooly mamoths as well as in one of the other books. In the afterward is where they are talking about the changes that have been made to archeological theory in the past 15 years. There were no Vikings at this time hun. There were scattered tribes of people. Ok, I made a mistake, I mis read something. I gave you the wrong time frame earlier, not 13000 years before present. The time frame for what I am talking about is 13000 BC. Vikings did not come over until closer to 100 AD. I'm not arguing that they didn't come by boat, because new evidence

[gilgurth]

What I'm telling you is that they were wrong. We had an ice age, sea level fell like 100ft or more and all that sea bed was exposed, and grew lush south of the glaciers.

think of how many people had to walk how many 1000s of miles. logistics would never work if it was ice (no drinking water and no food)