Thoughts and emotions after watching 5.22

[amber3444]

I have different feelings about 5.22 - it was breathtaking, affecting, dramatic, and in  so many aspects interesting, but my attitude towards it varies whether I consider it as only a season finale or the possible ending  of Sam and Dean’s story - the entire show as  Kripke has mentioned.

First of all I want to warn that this pretty much long post

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[scherwood]

I agree with what you say... this season finale, or whatever, just didn't messure up to the rest of the story... now, when I have had time to progress the ep, I just can't say that I love it... *sigh*

But the most irritating thing for me was that Adam showed up, and that Dean never said "yes" to Michael... if he had, it would have been so much more epic, and I would have liked this ep a LOT more... but no, they had to bring in Lisa and Adam who has NOTHING to do with the brothers... not really... *dies*

Anyway... I'm gonna sleep... and try to look forward to the 6th season...

[amber3444]

I re-watched the episode, but all feelings are the same - I liked it very much even with that Adam substitution for Dean and other gaps, but only like season finale, not the possible finale of the show.

So was with Lisa, I totally understand why Sam made Dean to promise to go find her and stay by her, because only that he could make sure that Dean would be take care of himself, because of all responsibility he definitely would get after staying with them for a while and that was what Sam needed and had a right for - to make sure he really saved his brother and not till some random hunt if he stayed for example with Bobby.

It goes without saying that Lisa and Ben are just some barely close people but NOT his family, but what I mostly afraid that Sam would think differently even if he supposed to know and see that Dean is NOT happy, so I also just looking forward for season 6 and hope for good.

[strgazr04]

i have to agree with you. after watching the finale i was left more confused than anything else. i feel like after they heard about the renewal for next season, they ran around changing everything in the script. i think originally, dean and sam both would have said yes and both would have gone into the cage at the end

[amber3444]

You know that very dramatic ending - Sam and Dean saying "Yes", but refusing to fight somehow, but still having been brought to the pit would be at least understandable - thus it would be "together till the end" and their destiny, if Kripke still decided it really that mattered, as soulmates.

As for time jump. I read those speculations and with other fans hoped it won't be our show, but after watching 5.22 I seriously think that we can be 'made happy" by means one more "original"€ trick. The less - it will be 4 months - just like hiatus, because Dean (I just didn't pay attention to Lisa's dress) looked as if he had been living some time with them, that some time had passed, moreover we doesn't know how much time could pass in the cage and what Sam could have been thinking over which might prevent him from entering that house.

And Yes, only after watching season finale I fully realized how happy we are to have season 6 and began to treasure this whole thing even more.

[spnfansonline]

I read some people saying that Dean was wearing the same clothes, so I'm confused about how long it passed. I think some time passed because of Chuck's words, that Bobby and Dean wouldn't see each other for quite some time. I don't like it...

And I like it even less if it was before Sam coming back because of what it would mean to Sam. I don't want a demon!Sam. And I would totally hate a ghost!Sam. A season about that, making him moving on? No, please... *Face palm*

[deangirl1]

In many ways I agree with what you are saying here, but you are missing one vital part of this story. Why do you think that this is the ending Kripke envisioned? Because it isn't. Did you notice who actually WROTE this episode? It wasn't Kripke - yes he wrote the "teleplay" but Eric Gewitz actually wrote the episode. Now, it is possible that Gewitz is actually a pseudonym that Kripke is using, but an author only does that when they don't WANT to put their own name on it. The scripts for the final episodes apparently changed quite a bit when the show got picked up

[spnfansonline]

Well... This name, Eric Gewitz, exists in IMDB, but Supernatural isn't listed. I don't know if he's real or not, though.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0315384

What you say makes sense. We don't hear from Kripke for a long, long time. When he didn't show up at the 100th episode party I was very suspicious, because they were celebrating his baby. Since then... No interview, no comment, no nothing. I was expecting something from him after this season finale, but nothing came. He disappeared. It's beyond weird.

I wanted both of them alive and together. Like I said before, I don't like the idea of them going to the pit, it's too unfair. I don't really like the idea of them dying and going to Heaven (ok, I admit that i like this one better, lol). But they apart forever... It's worse than anything and I one thought that I just had is that - what if it was actually to punish us? *Sighs* I'm not ok with that....

[deangirl1]

I know we all wanted a happy ending - because we love them so - but what most people tend to forget is that this is a HORROR show. Things always end badly in the horror genre. Like Bobby said, there was never much hope anyway... I would have liked the Butch and Sundance ending with them locked together in the pit - think of all the fan fics that could have been written to get them out?!!!! I mean it would have been vague - just like the end of B&S - I mean, everyone likes to speculate that they made it out alive... and that's the other rule of horror. Nobody's dead unless you see the body!
I will always watch - I can't NOT watch Jensen, but I am so, so worried about next season...

[spnfansonline]

I understand... I think that my problem is that, despite the monsters, demons and all, I don't see Supernatural as a Horror show. I see it as a show about family and the love between them. I'm weird like that.

As for the fanfics it it ended/end like that... As much I like fanfics the way I see them is way different then the actual show, so I don't think they would make anything better and in my mind they would suffer and be tortured in Hell for hundreds of years, be turned into demons and start hurting and murdering people until some hunter kill them... Not a good thing... *shudders*

[demondean]

Thank you! You have pretty much voiced what I was thinking during this whole EP. I was just actually thinking how Chuck should be hit with a spoon upside the head for all the "sale talk" he did about this "great ending" as he puffed out of existence. HUH. Overall -- I am more disappointed with this finale than I've been with any of the previous. It had it's moments but the ending was just pure "WTF? Seriously? SERIOUSLY??? WAIT?? WHAT??? HUH." *sigh* I can't help but to wonder if maybe it would have been for the best if they had tied up the storyline here with the boys jumping to the cage together instead of trying to make us believe that either one of them would be ok living without the other.

[amber3444]

I hoped so much that Dean and Sam would work out the situation and just drive in the sunset like they used to do to clean the remnants of Apocalypses, and it's, incredible but with that ending Kripke managed to make many of us wish that both boys said "Yes" and saved the World at the cost of their lives, but still TOGETHER. Because that the show was about.

[spnfansonline]

*Blinks* Ok..... *Blinks again* I definitely think we share the same brain and heart. Heeee!

[demondean]

Amen. I know the show is THE show and fans are just fans and maybe we feel like we are involved and can influence more than we really can but stickin to it's own frikin canon and build-up is what SPN should be doing and it is the breach of teir own canon that I find most disturbing about "swan song". The last EP wasn't true to the SPN universe they've showed us so far and made us love. They can't just change the whole core of the show and make Kripke/Chuck/God say "this is fine and should be!" and expect us to roll with that??!!

Ugh. I'm not btw usually a bitchy fan but the last Ep just rubbed my fur the wrong way like whoa. *facepalm*

[spnfansonline]

...And here I am, crying again while reading this because, really? I think almost the same. I say "almost" because I don't really care about the rest of the world. I should be ashamed, I know... But I'm not. I only care about Sam and Dean

[amber3444]

I understand you completely, because I care of mankind but damn I care about the boys too and supposedly more than about that all people in SPN universe because I have been keeping an eye for them through 5 years, I love the characters for who they are and admire them for what they are doing - they don't deserve all this shit which pathetically was called destiny through the capital word for all they have done, so of course any "total drama"€ as the end was not preferable, because I really doubt that many people would sincerely signed up for watching this show if they knew

[spnfansonline]

And I agree again... Being Sam's big brother and protector is who Dean is or the bigger part. I know he said that he has to grow up from there, too, but I can't see it happening with Dean knowing that Sam is in Hell. I just can't...

Yeah, I think that us (and them) deserved at last this... At last this... *deep sigh*

Thank you for posting your point of view. It's good to know that someone else shares my thoughts... *hugs you*

[amber3444]

It's good to know that someone else shares my thoughts...

The same was with me. *hugs back*