Ramblings (rather pointless)

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I fail at posting... I have a tendency to leave something half-written for a week before finally putting it up. So instead of talking about what I saw last week, my pointless ramblings are now on "The Shakespeare Code". And whatever that episode of Torchwood was called. I'm not that great with names.

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[nina_ds]

Great goodbye scene! If only... But I do think we need smacking. He's too thick to get someone telling him home truths to his face. Or maybe it's just that I fantasize about slapping him so much. (Don't forget they even had Shakespeare coming onto him - not that I cared a bit for their Shakespeare, but...) On the Shakespeare note, I could take it a bit better if just once in a while they threw in a writer or artist from somewhere else. But they're not going to do it. RTD has said that people can't identify with aliens. Gee, I don't remember that stopping ET from being the biggest grossing film of all time until Titanic came along.

It's such a neat experience for me, reading a rant about Ten that I totally agree with that I didn't have to write myself!

I'm slowly detaching from DW, at least from "current" fandom, for the very same reason. I've given up thinking they're going to do anything about Ten because too many people like him (which worries me on a whole other level - particularly one friend who actually insists he's a

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Oh, yeah, I gave up hope that Ten was capable of listening to reason a long time ago. That was one of the reasons I liked that they sent Rose off; she was too nice to him, let him get away with too much. Worked fine with Nine, but Ten needs someone to smack some sense into him once in a while. Not that this has been done, on the show, or that it would really stand a chance of getting through to him. By now I think the only thing that stands any chance at all of getting through to him is a bullet. Even then, I don't know if they'd go in too different a direction with Eleven... Canonically, they should, and actor's pride ought to help, but... After watching Torchwood, I don't know if they *can* write anything differently.

RTD has said that people can't identify with aliens -- my god, you're kidding me. That's... the most depressing worldview I've ever heard. Especially if he's applying that to other cultures on Earth as well, which, given all the episodes in Cardiff, London, and New^42 York, seems more than possible. Eventually that

[nina_ds]

That was one of the reasons I liked that they sent Rose off; she was too nice to him, let him get away with too much. Worked fine with Nine, but Ten needs someone to smack some sense into him once in a while.

I was glad that Rose left, too, for a complex set of reasons. I didn't like who she became with Ten. She had those tendencies with Nine, to be sure (her jealousy of Lynda and even of Jabe - look back, and she's already bristling, "Twigs off, missy, he's mine!" But she wasn't as sure of him, so she wasn't as smug. But then, she also challenged Nine (with the Gelth, with the Dalek), but she doesn't with Ten, and God knows he did enough to be challenged over (like, Why can't we visit Jack? Are you going to just leave me in Aberdeen? Why did you bop off with that French cow and leave us alone on a space ship to DIE?) And I have never wanted to pummel lead characters in a show nearly as bad as I wanted to with Rose and Ten in T&C with their stupid bet, when they left Mickey holding the button down in Rise of the Cybermen, and when

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I'm still processing S2; after TCI, I stopped caring pretty abruptly. I have caught up on a few of the episodes, though. The Impossible Planet-- *shakes head* Hated that laughing scene. And I still don't know what was impossible about the planet. And bringing the Devil into it for no reason whatsoever...

I'll put at least part of that down to Christopher Eccleston being so much a better actor-- That's why I'm worried about rewatching S1; I'd be looking at it to see what the essential difference was-- if there was one. Even since I saw that RTD claimed to have written both seasons the same, I started wondering if maybe Eccleston was the *only* reason that series was so good, if all the things I can't stand about the writing were really the same. If that were true, I don't think I'd take it very well.

Why did you bop off with that French cow and leave us alone on a space ship to DIE? *grins* I got a good fic out of that exact question... It's getting eerie. Once, there was a (generally badly done) challenge going around Teaspoon along