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Dec 01, 2009 22:46

Okay, I have to speak somewhere, so hello LiveJournal ( Read more... )

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amodernlilith December 2 2009, 13:36:28 UTC
Hey Noah,

Thanks for your response! Yeah, I guess I can agree with the "if he killed people, he killed people" sentiment. I wonder if Germany has the many "kinds" of murder that we have -- does coercion allow you to go down for "assisted manslaughter" or something of the sort? I suggested in a Twitter tirade that the man be put under house arrest or something similar if he's convicted of a crime other than actual, full-blown murder. But I guess that's more of a "humanitarian" argument, and the laws are the laws. Not much I can do to change 'em.

RE: against anti-Semitic statements, yeah I expected something of the sort. To me, that's no big deal, in a country as scarred by anti-Semitic thought as Germany was. I have a hunch that, in this particular case, if he was still espousing pro-Nazi sentiment, that would probably be all over the news.

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lunathecat December 2 2009, 18:46:39 UTC
Like Noah, I pretty much agree with all of your feelings of disgust at perceived overkill (no pun intended) where vengeance is concerned... and your belief in shades of grey, and in wondering where to draw the line when it comes to pursuing these elderly remnants of a very dark time ( ... )

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amodernlilith December 3 2009, 03:14:29 UTC
Hmmm, actually, you are probably right. I guess we'll see what evidence comes out during the trial. Could just be some really disingenuous reporting.

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zanduar December 3 2009, 00:12:57 UTC
The burden of proof is supposed to be on the state but often is not. This is another example of that ( ... )

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amodernlilith December 3 2009, 03:13:56 UTC
I can't read that thread because I don't have a login.

I didn't talk about his deportation at all in my post. Did you read what I had to say before you commented?

I guess perhaps I was unclear since the rest of your comment also makes absolutely no sense in context of what I meant to say. I am not talking about the U.S. in particular -- I'm talking about a Western sense of justice. I know he's being tried in Germany, which is why I say that he will be locked up in Germany. I don't mention the U.S. until the end, because I see this trial in Germany as indicative of a problem which I've already observed in the U.S.

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zanduar December 3 2009, 03:43:42 UTC
Did you read the wikipedia entry ( ... )

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zanduar December 3 2009, 03:48:39 UTC
Did I mention I jump around a lot?

It is a shame you can't read that thread. It would probably make you furious. It is mostly military men arguing against terrorism while I make logical arguments that terrorism is justifiable.

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