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Oct 11, 2012 23:41

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spoilers for spn 8.02 )

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borgmama1of5 October 12 2012, 03:55:00 UTC
Ouch.

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amonitrate October 12 2012, 13:42:56 UTC
Yeah.

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missyjack October 12 2012, 03:57:14 UTC
YES THIS.

I think its integral to how Dean sees himself, that he can do this terrible things, and bear the scars so others don't have to.

And Sam this season is "essential"Sam - trying to find out who he is, whats important to him away from the family business.

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amonitrate October 12 2012, 13:44:41 UTC
What sold me on this show was how it was constantly developing these themes and character struggles, in a way that some in the fandom sees as repetition but I think is a very human thing. Not going in circles so much as a spiral, revisiting these similar points but closer and closer to the center. Or something.

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katsheswims October 12 2012, 04:43:38 UTC
It's true. It's just that back in season one Dean (and Sam) was more scared about it (about who it made him), and now he's become so desensitized because of all the trauma and what he has had to do that he is less bothered by it, even though it still adds to the damage he feels on the inside when he has to kill a 'civilian' and when people judge him for it. (Though it's hard for anyone to judge Dean as harshly as he does himself.)

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amonitrate October 12 2012, 13:48:50 UTC
Yeah, I do think he's moved from being openly scared of who he might be or become to resigned to and accepting that this is who he is/has always been.

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destro October 12 2012, 05:31:10 UTC
Basically, Dean's Robo!Sam. But with a soul. And knows it. And is pretty cool with it. And can't even work up the energy to hate himself for it. Or work up the energy to be terrified by the fact that he doesn't hate himself for it. Which is the Inception of feelings, but whatevs. Hooooooooooooot.

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smilla02 October 12 2012, 11:30:17 UTC
I don't know. I don't see Dean as being cool with it. Dean looked pretty terrified to me about what he's doing and hating himself for it.

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amonitrate October 12 2012, 13:37:35 UTC
aw dammit i wrote a nice long comment and lj ate it ( ... )

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smilla02 October 12 2012, 13:52:44 UTC
*kicks lj for eating your comment*

I agree with you. I was answering to the poster above about Dean being cool with it. Because it's so much more and Dean is showing clear signs, like you say, that he's not cool with it. That he hates himself even more than he hated himself before. There may be a resignation about it, yes. Like he is what he is, stupid of Dean to think that he could be different. That he could be a father and have a woman, that he would think of himself as a person (see Bobby's advice last season) and not just sub!human for what he does. But there are also signs, the anger for example, the disappointment that Sam didn't look for him, and getting out of Purgatory was something that fell on his shoulders and what he had to do to get out that are showing how that hard shell that he's wearing is cracking. And to me all of that is clear in JA's acting and in the way Dean's being written and it's just 2 episodes. :D

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