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[anotheryourself]

oh, and one of the really powerful things about camp f was that it wasn't a "fuck you. you suck." kind of thing, but a "fuck you. this needs to happen. we're sorry you couldn't figure that out. but if your conference can get good things out of it, too, than that's great" kind of thing. just working on making the femme community stronger,

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[femmeboy]

I'd love to hear more about why this happened at some point, if you feel like going into it. I think all I've heard is "the organizers suck!" but no sense as to why or what people felt wasn't happening that needed to, etc. But, you know, no stress.

And yay for Seattle! Hope you'll be making a return trip soon.

[anotheryourself]

yeah. it's rough because the website is like "racist and sexist stuff happened, but we won't really tell you about it." but there was a big pamphlet that was on tables at camp f. it has some open letters with some of the reasons why the programming committee decided to start it and a top 10 list of "why the femme conference organizing is fucked-UP and oppressive." the reasons on that list that hit me most are: "3. Lying to presenters that you are a non-profit to get the 'sliding-scale fee' to bring them to the conference." (the person who put on the conference has a business of conference-making... but none of the literature or anything like that talks about it. he also put on this last year's gender odyssey conference, too.) "6. In retaliation to the whole program committee resigning, cancel, then plagiarize the workshops that committee members originally develped to present." "7. Tell presenters that they get to attend their own workshop for free" (yippee!) and "8. Choose one of the most expensive venues in Seattle for a "

[anotheryourself]

puck mentioned to me that it might not be that he has a "business of conference-making" so i don't want that to be just a gossipy thing that i'm saying. but definitely this is a for profit event but seemed to attendees and to presenters as a non-profit.

[anotheryourself]

and now i'm sending you an email... about the latter bit.