Possible Recognizance Opportunities for The_Berserker and/or SusannaMoodie!aprilp_katjeOctober 1 2007, 19:29:49 UTC
Lynnions are going to be in Toronto for a couple of different events this month (from the FBorFW Newsletter):Members of the studio team, Allison and Steph, will be attending a two-day Free Software and Open Source Symposium at Seneca College in Toronto at the end of October (http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2007/). Steph apologizes for any delays in customer service correspondence which may occur while she's in Toronto communing with the other web geeks - however, it is expected that this brief foray into nerddom will help her to enhance your surfing experience at fborfw.com. Thanks for your patience
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OVC UGuelph DVM = undergrad degree?!?!?!?!!?aprilp_katjeAugust 18 2008, 19:28:43 UTC
I'm hoping that one or more of our resident Canadians might be able to shed some light on something I'm a bit confused about.
I'm checking out the web page for UGuelph's Ontario Veterinary College, and I was surprised to see their site specify that the DVM is "an undergraduate degree." Especially since this is not a program that one can enroll in right out of secondary school. Applicants must have completed four semesters (two years) of university, and the timeline given notes that the earliest one can apply is during the third year of university.
Is this a Canadian thing? You're a doctor of veterinary medicine, but somehow you just have two undergrad degrees? ::confused::
I have two so-called undergraduate degrees, as the first was more or less the prerequisite for taking the second. Many professional programmes are classified as undergrad programmes, even if you can't enter them straight out of high school. I'll take a look at the Guelph website (the University of Guelph is commonly referred to as "Guelph" BTW), and post again.
It seems cruel to require an undergrad degree as a prereq for a program and not at least give people who complete that program credit for having a graduate degree!
After an e-mail correspondence with someone in the Dean's office at the Ontario Veterinary College at Guelph, I now know that April has seven years of university ahead of her. Her first two years in the BSc program, she will have to make sure she fulfills the prerequisites for the DVM program. During her third year of the BSc program, she can apply for the DVM program. Provided she is accepted, she would then begin the DVM program the following fall.
In the DVM program, she'll have four years (each year is called a "phase"). Between the third and fourth years, she'll have to complete an externship program.
So, provided April completes secondary school in 2009, she can have her DVM degree in 2016.
Re: Guelphaprilp_katjeAugust 21 2008, 22:13:54 UTC
All I did was write to the e-mail address they had on the website. The response came back the same day--though it actually took a few back-and-forth messages to get my questions answered, as the first reply only answered part of my question, and for the second, the person was convinced that I was "confusing the BSc program and the DVM program," which I was not. But we got it all straightened out. :)
BTW, Ms M says that the three year Bachelors degrees have been eliminated at all of the universites at which she's taught.
Interesting. I wonder why Guelph hasn't phased them out. When there was still a grade 13, was it usual for the students who had completed grade 13 to do a three-year program and for those coming straight from grade 12 to do four?
When there was still a grade 13, was it usual for the students who had completed grade 13 to do a three-year program and for those coming straight from grade 12 to do four?
No. You had to have Grade 13 to enter university. The 3 year and 4 year programmes were very different. The 3 year degrees were dead end degrees (i.e. didn't lead to grad studies) and were either for those who were certain they were moving on to a professional programme or for those who couldn't handle the 4 year programme, which were much more demanding. I hedged my bet by enrolling in a 4 year programme and applying to graduate with a 3 year degree after I had completed my third year. (The 4 year degree was referred to as an Honours BSc or BA or whatever, to distinguish it from the 3 year degree.)
Grade 12 was the entry requirement for college -- which I think is more or less equivalent to the American community college.
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I'm checking out the web page for UGuelph's Ontario Veterinary College, and I was surprised to see their site specify that the DVM is "an undergraduate degree." Especially since this is not a program that one can enroll in right out of secondary school. Applicants must have completed four semesters (two years) of university, and the timeline given notes that the earliest one can apply is during the third year of university.
Is this a Canadian thing? You're a doctor of veterinary medicine, but somehow you just have two undergrad degrees? ::confused::
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In the DVM program, she'll have four years (each year is called a "phase"). Between the third and fourth years, she'll have to complete an externship program.
So, provided April completes secondary school in 2009, she can have her DVM degree in 2016.
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BTW, Ms M says that the three year Bachelors degrees have been eliminated at all of the universites at which she's taught.
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BTW, Ms M says that the three year Bachelors degrees have been eliminated at all of the universites at which she's taught.
Interesting. I wonder why Guelph hasn't phased them out. When there was still a grade 13, was it usual for the students who had completed grade 13 to do a three-year program and for those coming straight from grade 12 to do four?
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No. You had to have Grade 13 to enter university. The 3 year and 4 year programmes were very different. The 3 year degrees were dead end degrees (i.e. didn't lead to grad studies) and were either for those who were certain they were moving on to a professional programme or for those who couldn't handle the 4 year programme, which were much more demanding. I hedged my bet by enrolling in a 4 year programme and applying to graduate with a 3 year degree after I had completed my third year. (The 4 year degree was referred to as an Honours BSc or BA or whatever, to distinguish it from the 3 year degree.)
Grade 12 was the entry requirement for college -- which I think is more or less equivalent to the American community college.
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