Great recap, I have nothing to add, really. Although I don't know how they want to redeem Stefan after all. And how they want to mend his relationship with Caroline. Huh, I always assumed Nina had cut her hair after the shooting of the finale. Didn't see the promo, though. For me the episode was sort of taking a deep breath before plunging into the showdown.
Although I don't know how they want to redeem Stefan after all. And how they want to mend his relationship with Caroline.
Yeah. Well, in the end, Stefan's main trait is selfishness (love him, but so true), so if he really wants to be with Caroline, he WILL choose what he wants.
Huh, I always assumed Nina had cut her hair after the shooting of the finale. Didn't see the promo, though.
No, she cut it around January 08/09 and didn't start filming until at least a few days after that. I'm basing it off of a picture I saw in an article. The hairline at her forehead? SO BAD!
For me the episode was sort of taking a deep breath before plunging into the showdown.
Is Caroline crossing over to TO legit or just speculation?
TOTAL speculation. Honestly, I don't think she's going to because of the kids, I just think that of all of the characters, Caroline and Matt are THE most likely. I know that Julie said once that if TO or TVD ended before the other, some of the characters/actors who wanted would go to the remaining show. So who knows? It probably won't happen though.
I never liked TO and stopped watching it after the first couple of eps
I'm actually not horribly fond of it. I mean, I sorta like it. But I'm mostly watching it now because a fave actor of mine recurs.
But I thought the same about Elena until the show suddenly told us otherwise at the end of s6.REALLY? Elena made it clear from day one that she DID NOT want to be a vampire, did not like being one. The only thing she liked about it was having forever with Damon. She even told Ric that specifically in the beginning of season 06. The first 6 episodes of season 04 made it clear she didn't like it. The last couple of episodes when
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“To not put too fine a point on it, the Badass-Bromance feels lasted all of... well, pretty much not at all.” - Yeah, that was a short-lived feeling of hope, sadly.
Ah, but I've now decided that I have hope that it as renewed now that Damon is a human and they apparently ignored the need for Damon to leave MF.
“They took away from the character the three main reasons that made him so fantastic-pretty much THE reasons for most of his fans.” - You nailed it! Your entire analysis of these reasons was spot-on.
Alas, that does still remain the truth. Hey, maybe Matt Davis will be in the new season of TO and they will return some of that awesome!
“So, yeah, I don't love this version of Alaric Saltzman and I really haven't for the most part since he returned to the canvas.” - I wonder (although this is probably grasping at straws since it was never brought up or alluded to in the show) if maybe it was some kind of a long-lasting effect of Esther’s influence? Maybe the Alaric-ness got, um, irretrievably washed out of him as a result of
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I'm just going with the fact that Esther's influence did leave a mark so with Damon no longer a vampire, they can get back to their friendship. :)
With Stefan gone, he could kind of form some kind of a triangle with her and Klaus, maybe.
I don't think they do that. If there was a triangle between Alaric and someone, I don't think it would be Caroline, I think it would be someone else. I think they would do the push/pull with Caroline and Klaus only.
Such a missed opportunity since it would've made so much sense *sigh*
Trust me, the Esther angle is covered in my TVD issues write-up.
Re: 8.13 / part IIarabianJuly 1 2017, 17:57:40 UTC
“So I do think it's the casting here, and that's a shame. And it is frustrating. I feel like I should love Dorian by now, and if I did all that happened with him in this one would have been amazing, and heartbreaking and given us a beautiful (if devastating) arc.” - I didn’t really think about it like that before but now that you listed all the reasons why this should’ve worked, I think you’re totally right and that casting was THE reason why I wasn’t as emotionally moved by that storyline as I should and could have been otherwise.
It really sucks, because other than (ugh) Olga Fonda, this show is generally totally aces with casting. Imagine if they had cast Sterling Sulieman (Harper, recently on Still Star-Crossed) in the role of Dorian. I still remember him fondly as Harper. He would have been amazing in the role. Ah well.
“The real life affects of vampirism is just slamming us over the head, but in the best way possible.” - Yes, and it was one of those things I didn’t expect to be addressed (especially not in such a thorough way
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Although I don't know how they want to redeem Stefan after all. And how they want to mend his relationship with Caroline.
Huh, I always assumed Nina had cut her hair after the shooting of the finale. Didn't see the promo, though.
For me the episode was sort of taking a deep breath before plunging into the showdown.
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Yeah. Well, in the end, Stefan's main trait is selfishness (love him, but so true), so if he really wants to be with Caroline, he WILL choose what he wants.
Huh, I always assumed Nina had cut her hair after the shooting of the finale. Didn't see the promo, though.
No, she cut it around January 08/09 and didn't start filming until at least a few days after that. I'm basing it off of a picture I saw in an article. The hairline at her forehead? SO BAD!
For me the episode was sort of taking a deep breath before plunging into the showdown.
Yeah, I see that.
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TOTAL speculation. Honestly, I don't think she's going to because of the kids, I just think that of all of the characters, Caroline and Matt are THE most likely. I know that Julie said once that if TO or TVD ended before the other, some of the characters/actors who wanted would go to the remaining show. So who knows? It probably won't happen though.
I never liked TO and stopped watching it after the first couple of eps
I'm actually not horribly fond of it. I mean, I sorta like it. But I'm mostly watching it now because a fave actor of mine recurs.
But I thought the same about Elena until the show suddenly told us otherwise at the end of s6.REALLY? Elena made it clear from day one that she DID NOT want to be a vampire, did not like being one. The only thing she liked about it was having forever with Damon. She even told Ric that specifically in the beginning of season 06. The first 6 episodes of season 04 made it clear she didn't like it. The last couple of episodes when ( ... )
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Ah, but I've now decided that I have hope that it as renewed now that Damon is a human and they apparently ignored the need for Damon to leave MF.
“They took away from the character the three main reasons that made him so fantastic-pretty much THE reasons for most of his fans.” - You nailed it! Your entire analysis of these reasons was spot-on.
Alas, that does still remain the truth. Hey, maybe Matt Davis will be in the new season of TO and they will return some of that awesome!
“So, yeah, I don't love this version of Alaric Saltzman and I really haven't for the most part since he returned to the canvas.” - I wonder (although this is probably grasping at straws since it was never brought up or alluded to in the show) if maybe it was some kind of a long-lasting effect of Esther’s influence? Maybe the Alaric-ness got, um, irretrievably washed out of him as a result of ( ... )
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I'm just going with the fact that Esther's influence did leave a mark so with Damon no longer a vampire, they can get back to their friendship. :)
With Stefan gone, he could kind of form some kind of a triangle with her and Klaus, maybe.
I don't think they do that. If there was a triangle between Alaric and someone, I don't think it would be Caroline, I think it would be someone else. I think they would do the push/pull with Caroline and Klaus only.
Such a missed opportunity since it would've made so much sense *sigh*
Trust me, the Esther angle is covered in my TVD issues write-up.
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It really sucks, because other than (ugh) Olga Fonda, this show is generally totally aces with casting. Imagine if they had cast Sterling Sulieman (Harper, recently on Still Star-Crossed) in the role of Dorian. I still remember him fondly as Harper. He would have been amazing in the role. Ah well.
“The real life affects of vampirism is just slamming us over the head, but in the best way possible.” - Yes, and it was one of those things I didn’t expect to be addressed (especially not in such a thorough way ( ... )
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