Problem being... Fate (as understood) is not a Heathen concept... Not to mention I know I sure do not agree with the writers assumption that Urd is Hel... The two are vastly differing folk, with vastly differing roles... If he changed the 'Fate' to wyrd I would have no problem and even somewhat agree that he has a good example of it. But... Fate is not Wyrd... I also do not agree that Skuld 'Decides' our time to die. Yes, she is the one cutting the thread that brings about the end of our web, but I think it has more to do with natural reaction and not a conscious choice as to 'Hey, its time this person dies'...
"I'd love to know where the author comes up with the name Leikin."
Leikin is mentioned mainly by Rydberg, but according to him (Rydberg) can be found in other sagas and such. Appearently there is some mention in the Here are some pieces from him about it... *************************
Cosmographic Overview "Farther toward the north rise the Nida mountains and form the steep wall which constitutes Niflhel's southern boundary. In this wall are the Na-gates, through which the damned when they have died their second death are brought into the realm of torture, whose ruler is Leikin. Niflheim is inhabited by the spirits of the primeval giants, by the spirits of disease, and by giants who have fallen in conflict with the gods. Under Niflhel extend the enormous caves in which the various kinds of criminals are tortured. In one of these caves is the torture hall of the Nastrands. Outside of its northern door is a grotto guarded by swarthy elves. The door opens to Amsvartnir's sea, over which eternal darkness broods. In this sea lies the
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"The reading in Cod. Hauk., seið hon hvars hon kunni, seið hon hugleikin, evidently has some "emendator" to thank for its existence who did not understand the passage and wished to substitute something easily understood for the obscure lines he thought he had found
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Right off the bat, no notation or citations to support anything. F. Ex: I can come out and say that "In one Germanic account the easter bunny is the supreme sky-god"... no matter that it was an insane, institutionalized, German that said it... that's an extreme-- but it's been the plague of heathen writers lately
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I think that this excerpt is great! But, then, I’m rather prejudiced, as you know how much I appreciate things based on Rydbergian theory.
“Fate” is sort of an unfortunate word. However, it is arguably the closest cognate to wurt/garma that we have in English, so its use is justified.
I also think that the author’s comment re fixating on the past is a very powerful one. There is a big difference between being INSPIRED by the past vs trying to RE-LIVE it. I do not want to see our triuwa become an SCA-like hobby; I want to see it continue to grow in a way relevant to modern folks so that it will continue to have worth to our descendants. Otherwise in 100 years or so we’ll be seeing another Heathen revival, with our efforts viewed as marginally as the mainstream Heathen community of today sees Armanentum and Storgoticism.
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There is a gem or two in there, but I see a lot of crap. Not the best piece on the subject by far.
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Leikin is mentioned mainly by Rydberg, but according to him (Rydberg) can be found in other sagas and such. Appearently there is some mention in the Here are some pieces from him about it...
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"Farther toward the north rise the Nida mountains and form the steep wall which constitutes Niflhel's southern boundary. In this wall are the Na-gates, through which the damned when they have died their second death are brought into the realm of torture, whose ruler is Leikin. Niflheim is inhabited by the spirits of the primeval giants, by the spirits of disease, and by giants who have fallen in conflict with the gods. Under Niflhel extend the enormous caves in which the various kinds of criminals are tortured. In one of these caves is the torture hall of the Nastrands. Outside of its northern door is a grotto guarded by swarthy elves. The door opens to Amsvartnir's sea, over which eternal darkness broods. In this sea lies the ( ... )
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"The reading in Cod. Hauk., seið hon hvars hon kunni, seið hon hugleikin, evidently has some "emendator" to thank for its existence who did not understand the passage and wished to substitute something easily understood for the obscure lines he thought he had found ( ... )
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“Fate” is sort of an unfortunate word. However, it is arguably the closest cognate to wurt/garma that we have in English, so its use is justified.
I also think that the author’s comment re fixating on the past is a very powerful one. There is a big difference between being INSPIRED by the past vs trying to RE-LIVE it. I do not want to see our triuwa become an SCA-like hobby; I want to see it continue to grow in a way relevant to modern folks so that it will continue to have worth to our descendants. Otherwise in 100 years or so we’ll be seeing another Heathen revival, with our efforts viewed as marginally as the mainstream Heathen community of today sees Armanentum and Storgoticism.
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