Wow, a couple hours later and I've already been yelled at about my last post via email by an acquaintance of an acquaintance. I decided to reply to said email here rather than returning email fire
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Thanks for sharing the Gene Robinson prayer - I didn't get to see that, and I like it a lot more than the prayer that was said just before Obama was sworn in.
I really appreciate that he asked people to remember that this dude is just a person, and not bringing messiaic and immediate change that fixes everything immediately.
Yeah, I think that's one of the reasons people were annoyed with the speech. It didn't reach some kind of "hope'n'change' critical mass or something. I dunno what was up with the TV snub or who made the decision to cut it with HBO, but it's looking like if it was a snub it was about Robinson rather than a larger community of queer folk.
I was pleasantly weirded out that Rick Warren (the other super-religious conservative guy) actually went as far as he did in his prayer, as well as praising the decision to add Robinson. It's probably all political and he'll probably go home and renounce it all to his congregation or something, but still. Considering it was tantamount to heresy from where he's usually standing, it was something.
The second prayer made me really angry actually. Seriously? After 8 years of Bush, you really want another leader going on about doing God's will around the world?
In personal view I'm with Picard on this one, as on most things.
Still, the problem is, people like Warren are going to continue to exist for awhile yet. What to do about them then? If you marginalize and ignore them, they proliferate and gain followers and adherents from a quietly large block of citizens that believes in some biblical golden age. Then they take over. It gets worse in times of change as people fall back on ideology to help them through dramatic shifts. If you give them air time, they become more mainstream but at least you can speak out against them when you need to. I'm not sure. Reconciling or dismantling fundamentalism is going to be one of the defining features of our age if we prefer to move forward socially.
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I really appreciate that he asked people to remember that this dude is just a person, and not bringing messiaic and immediate change that fixes everything immediately.
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I was pleasantly weirded out that Rick Warren (the other super-religious conservative guy) actually went as far as he did in his prayer, as well as praising the decision to add Robinson. It's probably all political and he'll probably go home and renounce it all to his congregation or something, but still. Considering it was tantamount to heresy from where he's usually standing, it was something.
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My friend tweeted this out today, and it made me smile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj-TlRi_uj4
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In personal view I'm with Picard on this one, as on most things.
Still, the problem is, people like Warren are going to continue to exist for awhile yet. What to do about them then? If you marginalize and ignore them, they proliferate and gain followers and adherents from a quietly large block of citizens that believes in some biblical golden age. Then they take over. It gets worse in times of change as people fall back on ideology to help them through dramatic shifts. If you give them air time, they become more mainstream but at least you can speak out against them when you need to. I'm not sure. Reconciling or dismantling fundamentalism is going to be one of the defining features of our age if we prefer to move forward socially.
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Rad.
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