ok this bullshit where you think you are superior cuz you think you know all there is to know about punk music is getting kind of old... i put that in there as an inside joke and you took it waaay too fucking seriously, you need to just get over yourself
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and new order and joy division arn't punk,
what about the 101ers, clash, buzzcocks, peter and the test tube babies, exploited... now that's english punk
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