I've skimmed through everyone's commentss, so I'm going to try to distill my response into ONE post. WARNING: I CAN BE WORDY.
I liked the episode! But I have to preface that by saying we STILL aren't getting much Sam POV. We see Sam doing things--AWESOME things!--but we still aren't getting into his noggin, and we're still being robbed of reaction shots from him. (When he had that outburst in the shifter's office, last episode? I nearly fainted.) This is, in part, due to the editing and I have some side-eyes going on towards the post-production department. I can't help feeling there's an agenda over there, to be perfectly conspiracy-theorist. Annnnywho
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Hey honey! Always love hearing your thinky thoughts :) Thanks so much for sharing. I catch some stuff on twitter but I often have trouble following the threads. I really miss this forum for ease of discussion.
Aaaanyway. Yes, yes and YES.
But I have to preface that by saying we STILL aren't getting much Sam POV.
Ya know, I don't know if I'm conditioned to not getting Sam's POV (anymore) or I'm still so completely burned by his total lack of POV and (awful) storytelling from S9 that these days I just shrug it off. I think what I'm doing these days is seeing through what the show is giving us to making up my own Sam story. I think Jared has been doing a remarkable job with what he's been given and I feel like I can see what's going on with him.
I think the thing that's been more questionable - and damaging - is Dean's story line. In fact, looking back they keep giving Dean questionable things to do (especially to Sam) with no consequences (did I mention S9 still bugs the hell out of me?!)
I too, really enjoyed this episode. It had some wonderful brother moments, and I felt a heavy sense of sadness at seeing Shaun die and not really being able to accept it (in fact Jensen's being doing such a great job at muting Dean and outwardly showing his depression, that I think I've been feeling that more than I thought I was). I loved seeing Sam trying to be supportive in every way that he could; emotionally, but also physically as he salt ringed Dean, and hovered protectively over him as he clock watched. It gave me lots of feels
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Argh! Sorry I didn't reply to this comment earlier!
But I'd to get some pay off further down the line; I'd like Sam to air some more of his emotions, particularly about Mary, when he feels that Dean is maybe a bit stronger. I would have liked to see Sam's reaction to seeing Cas, but I'm not going to go into that.
This! Before the last 2 episodes I was SURE we were going to get more Sam stuff. But alas... :( They never seem to pan out for Sam.
Maybe we'll get something in the second half of the season. I'm still hopeful... xxx
I'm also surprised to hear people complaining about it. After watching it I suspect it will be the best episode all season. It's certainly the best I've seen in a long time.
When they killed off the doctor ghost halfway into the episode it made me pay attention, since that automatically meant something more important was going to happen. I figure any episode that explains an important past event, brings back a recurring character (by which I mean Billie), and actually makes an emotional change meaningful and in character is a plus for me. This is probably more character development than Dean's gotten in a while.
I was entertained by Sam's efforts to make Dean's days better, even if he could only do so by checking out strip club reviews and ordering chili fries (and I' m a person who doesn't like them Dean, so there). I was pretty amused by the story that Sam was trying to get the dancer to go to nursing school. It sounds very much like Sam -- not only because he wants the best for people but also because he is into nurses
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After watching it I suspect it will be the best episode all season.
It's funny. Having seen the 2 episodes since this one I agree!
It seems like ages ago since this episode (though I think my favourite episode so far is the one with the shapeshifter - it had a nice balance for me). It's nice to read back on this review and remember that I have enjoyed episodes prior to the last two. ;)
If I was to fanwank it though, I'd suggest that perhaps all hunters should have a type of "cyanide pill" given the sort of situations they can get into.
I like that idea actually. It makes some sense. I know the syringe tied into the previous Billie episode, so I can see why it was used.
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I liked the episode! But I have to preface that by saying we STILL aren't getting much Sam POV. We see Sam doing things--AWESOME things!--but we still aren't getting into his noggin, and we're still being robbed of reaction shots from him. (When he had that outburst in the shifter's office, last episode? I nearly fainted.) This is, in part, due to the editing and I have some side-eyes going on towards the post-production department. I can't help feeling there's an agenda over there, to be perfectly conspiracy-theorist. Annnnywho ( ... )
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Aaaanyway. Yes, yes and YES.
But I have to preface that by saying we STILL aren't getting much Sam POV.
Ya know, I don't know if I'm conditioned to not getting Sam's POV (anymore) or I'm still so completely burned by his total lack of POV and (awful) storytelling from S9 that these days I just shrug it off. I think what I'm doing these days is seeing through what the show is giving us to making up my own Sam story. I think Jared has been doing a remarkable job with what he's been given and I feel like I can see what's going on with him.
I think the thing that's been more questionable - and damaging - is Dean's story line. In fact, looking back they keep giving Dean questionable things to do (especially to Sam) with no consequences (did I mention S9 still bugs the hell out of me?!)
I can't help feeling there's an ( ... )
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But I'd to get some pay off further down the line; I'd like Sam to air some more of his emotions, particularly about Mary, when he feels that Dean is maybe a bit stronger. I would have liked to see Sam's reaction to seeing Cas, but I'm not going to go into that.
This! Before the last 2 episodes I was SURE we were going to get more Sam stuff. But alas... :( They never seem to pan out for Sam.
Maybe we'll get something in the second half of the season. I'm still hopeful...
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When they killed off the doctor ghost halfway into the episode it made me pay attention, since that automatically meant something more important was going to happen. I figure any episode that explains an important past event, brings back a recurring character (by which I mean Billie), and actually makes an emotional change meaningful and in character is a plus for me. This is probably more character development than Dean's gotten in a while.
I was entertained by Sam's efforts to make Dean's days better, even if he could only do so by checking out strip club reviews and ordering chili fries (and I'
m a person who doesn't like them Dean, so there). I was pretty amused by the story that Sam was trying to get the dancer to go to nursing school. It sounds very much like Sam -- not only because he wants the best for people but also because he is into nurses ( ... )
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After watching it I suspect it will be the best episode all season.
It's funny. Having seen the 2 episodes since this one I agree!
It seems like ages ago since this episode (though I think my favourite episode so far is the one with the shapeshifter - it had a nice balance for me). It's nice to read back on this review and remember that I have enjoyed episodes prior to the last two. ;)
If I was to fanwank it though, I'd suggest that perhaps all hunters should have a type of "cyanide pill" given the sort of situations they can get into.
I like that idea actually. It makes some sense. I know the syringe tied into the previous Billie episode, so I can see why it was used.
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