Global Warming and Climate Change are real

Jan 23, 2009 08:10

And scientists are getting a flood of data to prove it ( Read more... )

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heslunatic January 23 2009, 15:03:06 UTC
I think we should start evacuating the penguins to elsewhere...

I think it's very sad and I hope these reports will activate all countries into action. They make a lot of promises but it's not enough. Here in the Netherlands you have all these regulations that get postponed, or subsidaries on solar power at home that are stopped. Then you have agreements and disagreements in the EU. And while we argue away, what gets done? Hardly anything.

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aurordice January 23 2009, 15:27:23 UTC
Can we migrate the polar bears from up north to down south? There's more polar ice down south (now)...

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heslunatic January 23 2009, 15:31:22 UTC
Might be a good idea. That way they won't endanger themselves by coming closer and closer to the cities. But only if there are enough seals for them to eat down there.

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aurordice January 23 2009, 15:49:20 UTC
Migrate the seals too!

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lupislune January 23 2009, 15:36:52 UTC
Half a degree in average temperature change over 30 years doubles the amount of dying trees? That doesn't logically make sense. I am highly suspicious of this study. It would be great if they could publish how they arrived at this conclusion because I just can't get there from the article.

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aurordice January 23 2009, 15:48:57 UTC
I think the article in Science magazine explains it further :).

To summarize, it's an indirect effect - the parasites that eat the trees are migrating to different regions, so now those regions have more of those parasites. That, and sensitivity to increased CO2 itself, are the killers, they think.

However, I have a different reason to place this one third in the "reliability" category of the three I linked - too small an area surveyed. If they had random samples in Europe and Asia and South America, too, then it'd be more complete. But that's so expensive! And, the other two studies are pretty rock-solid, so someone has to be third :p

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mexicantt January 23 2009, 15:48:08 UTC
I've seen more than enough documentaries on this to be convinced, but sadly, those articles aren't going to convince anyone who doesn't want to believe it.

And until we're all on the same page things will just get worse.

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snapegirl77 January 23 2009, 15:54:53 UTC
I agree. I think some people will never believe it, no matter how many studies are published and that's sad.

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aurordice January 23 2009, 16:11:17 UTC
John McCain believed it...

I know I won't change people's minds, but as a scientist I do want to present the evidence. It's overwhelming. I've only ever met one scientist who didn't believe in it (and I've met hundreds)

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zomgjess January 23 2009, 16:30:21 UTC
Did you see An Arctic Tale? It was blatant propaganda for educating people on global warming but that doesn't make it less true. Plus cute fuzzy animals!

When Gore gave the address at the DNC it really made me realize how different the world could have been if he'd been allowed to win that election.

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aurordice January 23 2009, 16:53:50 UTC
I haven't seen it, I should.

Gore is a bit over the top and gets a few facts wrong but the main message is true. I also wish another, less controversial guy would come forward and be the lead on the global warming battle. Maybe McCain could. Hard to say it's liberal propoganda then.

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rell121 January 23 2009, 22:19:38 UTC
As I scientist, do you think there are ways to avoid global warming without significantly cutting into people's way of living? Just wondering...

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aurordice January 23 2009, 23:22:03 UTC
Way of living: no. Some changes will have to be made. However, having cheap carbon traps installed on various things will be a sacrifice i bet most would be willing to do.

Standard of living: yes, we can overcome this one. An entire industry has sprung up around the global warming fight, and as more advances are made goods will become cheaper.

But, a committment from top down will be necessary - and we'll never put the planet back to 1850, but we can probably prevent the worst

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rell121 January 25 2009, 00:27:55 UTC
I know that I'm willing to make changes (perhaps not riding in a covered wagon to work), but I don't think people generally know what can or should be done.

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