I'm not sure what gambata ne means, but I'm very flattered by your words, sir. I didn't really imagine that you considered me very intelligent.
Anyway, maybe with you and Dan, I tend to misread y'all when you don't intend any harm--this comes up more with Dan than you, but as I said, I think he intends things as a joke. As for discussions of a more serious nature, though, I don't think there's generally much of a problem.
I suppose maybe I should give myself a bit more credit in some areas. Thanks for pointing it out, sir. I was originally mostly talking about intellectual subjects, but I guess I have been doing a lot to turn my life around. I tend to focus on the negative, but it's encouraging to hear that someone I respect as much as you has noticed my efforts and feels they've been paying off to some extent.
Again, thanks for taking the time to let me know how you feel.
right and wrong.. does that even exist? I agree some things can be viewed as difficult or bad to an extent.. but altogether wrong? I don't think so.
My Dad sees this issue completely in black and white. "There is a right way, and a wrong way to do things."
He commented on eating a cherry, in this manner. I ate a seeded cherry with small bites around the core. He believed the "right way" to consume a cherry consisted of submerging the entire cherry inside the mouth and then removing the seed/stem. heh. I disagree with him completely.. it's not WRONG to eat it my way, it may be a bit less easier than his.. but it's not wrong by any means. This doesn't reflect right and wrong in terms of morals.. and I don't necessarly believe in morals, since it's based entirely on perception for the most part, but that's another story..
And indeed, saying that morality is completely subjective is one possibility that I consider. I don't want that to be true, but I acknowledge that it may be.
I don't have a hard time, for example, believing that stabbing to death innocent stranger is "altogether wrong," even though I do realize that such an act could be accepted in another society and that I don't have any absolutely rational reasons for condemning it as wrong.
thus saying humans have an instinctive value of what's right and wrong. Killing another human can be viewed as wrong, or even the act of killing.. is wrong, because it's instinctive for humans to believe it wrong. Also majority opinion causes most things to have value, deciding the difference between right and wrong, but that's also your decision to accept thus.
Well, that's a possibility, like I said. It reminds me a bit of Kant's argument that morality is known a priori, or without empirical or rational requirements. Of course, he used that to argue that we all instinctly knew what was objectively right and you're using it to argue that I only believe certain things are right because of it. Opposite ends of the spectrum in that respect.
Do you not agree that it's possible that there is a Creator, who, along with us, drew up moral guidelines for right and wrong? It's a question that still divides extremely studied and gifted philosophers. Even science is subject to some fundamental issues regarding this, like, "What is human nature? Is it right to act in accordance with it?"
So yes, I feel I understand your argument. Without some higher intelligence, all there really is, is free will. There's what society pounds into our heads as right and what we naturally believe to be right--though admittedly I don't know how far instinctual morality goes--but those don't determine any actual
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Anyway, maybe with you and Dan, I tend to misread y'all when you don't intend any harm--this comes up more with Dan than you, but as I said, I think he intends things as a joke. As for discussions of a more serious nature, though, I don't think there's generally much of a problem.
I suppose maybe I should give myself a bit more credit in some areas. Thanks for pointing it out, sir. I was originally mostly talking about intellectual subjects, but I guess I have been doing a lot to turn my life around. I tend to focus on the negative, but it's encouraging to hear that someone I respect as much as you has noticed my efforts and feels they've been paying off to some extent.
Again, thanks for taking the time to let me know how you feel.
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My Dad sees this issue completely in black and white. "There is a right way, and a wrong way to do things."
He commented on eating a cherry, in this manner. I ate a seeded cherry with small bites around the core. He believed the "right way" to consume a cherry consisted of submerging the entire cherry inside the mouth and then removing the seed/stem. heh. I disagree with him completely.. it's not WRONG to eat it my way, it may be a bit less easier than his.. but it's not wrong by any means. This doesn't reflect right and wrong in terms of morals.. and I don't necessarly believe in morals, since it's based entirely on perception for the most part, but that's another story..
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I don't have a hard time, for example, believing that stabbing to death innocent stranger is "altogether wrong," even though I do realize that such an act could be accepted in another society and that I don't have any absolutely rational reasons for condemning it as wrong.
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Do you not agree that it's possible that there is a Creator, who, along with us, drew up moral guidelines for right and wrong? It's a question that still divides extremely studied and gifted philosophers. Even science is subject to some fundamental issues regarding this, like, "What is human nature? Is it right to act in accordance with it?"
So yes, I feel I understand your argument. Without some higher intelligence, all there really is, is free will. There's what society pounds into our heads as right and what we naturally believe to be right--though admittedly I don't know how far instinctual morality goes--but those don't determine any actual ( ... )
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I stand firm that the entry in question is from the pen of a preacy whiner. Don't let it bother you.
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