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ayaseyue March 29 2008, 02:50:56 UTC
Most of those guys are those types. The one guy takes all the pictures with his dolls, that one pretty much makes pornos with them, the first guy obviously knows something about Japanese culture from his talking about which dolls were better.

And it is one thing to have never had a relationship... its another to just give up and be like 'All women just want money' 'All women want a good looking guy who smokes, drinks, and watches sports.' they've all just plain given up. It is sad and pathetic but I can't totally call them freaks because they are lonely, they're just going about it the wrong way to fix it.

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the_mantic0r3 March 28 2008, 19:19:30 UTC
I'm a pretty open-minded guy, but there are boundaries. There's a difference between being socially/romantically inept and just having an illness that causes you to isolate yourself from another human being.

Plus, you just really can't explain one being in your closet.

In other news, I still find the lolita real dolls to be far more eerie....

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ayaseyue March 29 2008, 03:01:27 UTC
I know, I am very open minded myself but... I dunno. I can rationalize it in some ways like the whole 'it is essentially a blow up doll' thing, but yeah, like you said, they are so socially/romantically inept they make believe these dolls are real... I mean, they KNOW they aren't, they all say 'It is better than being alone' which means they KNOW the dolls aren't real or a substitute for interacting with real people but they choose to just give up and play with dolls instead.

And I agree about the lolita dolls... I think this is creepy just hearing the way they talk about them, and seeing them hang the dolls on the hooks and shit D:

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jcfreakish March 28 2008, 22:32:14 UTC
Um... Part of me is really really amused, but at the same time it's so sad, and creepy, and I get this bad feeling in the pit of my stomach, like a viceral reaction. Very icky, and very unnatural.

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ayaseyue March 29 2008, 04:39:56 UTC
I know, there were many times I just couldn't stop laughing at some parts... but it is sad and creepy. Like they are having a relationship with something not living, it is like saying a plant or a piece of furniture is your girl friend, if people did that their families would have them committed... but this is somehow 'okay'. I dunno, I have a lot of mixed feelings about it too.

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starrynight182 March 29 2008, 01:32:14 UTC
I've always thought I was fairly open-minded, but this really did creep me out. It made me sad the way the first guy had just plain given up on real girls, and it grossed me out the way they talked to them and treated them like they were real. I've never felt myself be so blatantly un-accepting of anything, but that really did it for me.

*shudder*

I think what really bothers me is that just by these dolls existing, it enables people to be okay with giving up.

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ayaseyue March 29 2008, 04:49:15 UTC
I know, it is a double edged sword, in some ways the dolls are good, in some ways they aren't any different than a blow up doll or a pocket pussy. The thing is they encourage the behavior of these people to become even more anti-social... and the thing is a blow up doll is made for sex... these things obviously aren't made to just be a sex toy, at least I don't think so, they made them so these people can actually LOVE them, with the way they talk to them they put on a good act, but when they talk about how lonely they are then you can tell they know they are really alone...

I dunno, it is kinda like the whole 'Cruel to be kind' they are helping these people but they are also hurting them since they are kinda making it all worse.

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starrynight182 March 29 2008, 08:16:11 UTC
I concur.

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Loving Dolls anonymous March 29 2008, 18:53:54 UTC
Just think Jeff Dahmer used to kill boys because he was so lonely he didn't want them to leave him after he had sex with them. It's terrible to feel THAT alone,however if you isolate yourself to that degree it can only mean bad things. What hope is there for human kind? If they were the last living beings on Earth, humanity would be wiped out because they would be socially inept.That is totally creepy.

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Re: Loving Dolls ayaseyue March 29 2008, 19:10:17 UTC
Indeed, I think that is part of what makes it so creepy. And yes, they are only making themselves more alone by choosing to live with these dolls rather than real human beings.

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