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jessii_6 January 10 2006, 19:41:14 UTC
that was.. interesting for the first and not quite so for the second.

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b_schmilsson January 10 2006, 20:42:41 UTC
I was appalled by the second one. I don't go to Starbucks, but there are two across the street from one another (one is in a Barnes & Noble), and I think I'm gonna try it out soon!! mmm...espresso!!

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threeoranges January 12 2006, 14:43:53 UTC
I too was appalled by the second one - but then I'm in the UK, where there'd be a public outcry if someone were taken off a ventilator for economic considerations alone. What's most disturbing is this writer's attempt to "spin" this as a "her own fault, should have taken out ventilator insurance" rather than addressing the actual problem of whether poor people are being failed by the system. (Of course they are, but the Repugs don't want to listen. Their answer to Katrina was, "their own fault, should have left when they were warned"; doubtless they can't understand why the poor of Nawlins didn't just pack two months' worth of food, money and clothing, get in their SUVs and head straight to the nearest Hilton hotel ( ... )

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b_schmilsson January 12 2006, 15:33:35 UTC
I honestly thought the writer was joking, 'cuz I couldn't imagine someone SERIOUSLY chastising someone for not taking out specific insurance that the public (as a whole, speaking in percentages) rarely, if ever, uses.

Do you not have a permanent vamp account? Why don't you let me get it for you, as a wedding gift, if you will?

(As for being thrown off AIM, my pc decided to freeze up about 3 times in a row, so I'm not having much better luck at all.)

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x_crackerbox January 10 2006, 20:11:05 UTC
don't you mean with an IQ higher than 40? hah

.. and both of those articles were tres interesting.

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newtsrule January 28 2006, 05:11:48 UTC
I read those on MSN.

To be honest I wouldn't want to be on life support for any more than a week or two anyway, if I were comatose. But that story broke my heart. I can only imagine what a wreck her family feels like.

Then again, the hospital kept my grandmother on life support when she died of cancer until she wasted down to 50lbs and died herself. This put my grandfather in debt for many years -- ironically, he got cancer and was jacked up on so much stuff to keep him alive himself, which put his second wife into debt.

But hell, if I had known that was happening, I would have given some money towards the family to keep it going.

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b_schmilsson January 31 2006, 14:54:33 UTC
I know a guy who fell off a high cliff and ended up in a coma for a month. If his family pulled the plug on him after just a couple weeks--well, he wouldn't be alive right now.

I think it's HORRIBLE to drag someone's life out for no reason other than you don't want to let go/the hospital wants more money. It's SO damned expensive just to go to the hospital nowadays, let alone get anything DONE. I won't get into all my personal politics on this, but I will say that what that hospital did was just DEVOID of compassion and any human interest (aside from pure greed).

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