41st Fall [voice]

[backseatangel]

[Public, but meant to be filtered from the Winchesters and Ruby]Do you believe there's a difference between understanding, acceptance, and forgiveness

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[wandbreaker]

[There is radio silence for a moment]

It means that all the wrongs you've done aren't weighed against your future actions.

[backseatangel]

Is there a difference between simply setting the scales back to zero and truly being trusted again?

[wandbreaker]

Yes. It's not easy to describe. But there is.

[backseatangel]

That's good to hear.

[shifts]

Does it matter?

You're putting too much importance on it to begin with.

[backseatangel]

I don't know, does it? I suppose that's an additional option. Simply moving forward without a care.

[shifts]

Learning from your mistakes is one thing. Basing your actions on the regard of other people is something else.

[backseatangel]

Did I say that I was basing my actions on others? What's happened has happened, but people react in different ways. I've seen it many times, I'm just curious as to how others handle it.

[freckleddoll]

I...I don't know, couldn't tell you. Startin' over again, I guess, really startin' over.

[backseatangel]

With no regrets?

[freckleddoll]

Guess so...otherwise don't know if it'd work.

Sometimes it's 'ard not to regret things, though.

[backseatangel]

It is very hard not to have regrets.

How are you, I haven't spoken to you in awhile.

[Voice]

[bloodcakedarmor]

Personally, my memory is long so I can't expect anyone to be any different if I wrong them in some way. And I think one emotions get involved, putting everything completely behind you is near impossible. I'm a fan of forgiving but not forgetting cause most creatures are creatures of habit and you just never know. You gotta just take the punches, learn from it and keep moving forward.

[Voice]

[backseatangel]

Creatures of habit. An interesting phrase. Here's another one - do you believe that leopards can change their spots?

[Voice]

[bloodcakedarmor]

Yeah, I think it's possible. Think it's rare though. I've seen people reform themselves but I know it's a whole lotta work in most cases, which is why you see so many repeat offenders to one thing or another. It's like a nicotine addict quitting smoking or an alcoholic putting down the drink, you know? Everyday multiple times a day they have to consciously make that decision not to pick it up, to go left instead of right. It takes a strong-willed leopard to change their spots.

[Voice]

[backseatangel]

I can see that. No matter how much one might want to fight, you are what you're made. Or what you've made yourself.

[ voice ]

[the_dawnster]

My sister told me that when things aren't okay, I should just pretend that they are until one day they actually really become okay. And she's had a mountain's worth of trauma that needs forgiving in her life so I think she would know. It's that whole 'time heals all wounds' yadda yadda yadda thing.

[ voice ]

[backseatangel]

Is that for the person that needs forgiveness or the person that needs to do the forgiving?

[ voice ]

[the_dawnster]

Well -- wait, hold on a minute.

[There's a long pause here as Dawn considers that.]

I almost said the person that needs to do the forgiving but now that I think about it, it could go for both.

[ voice ]

[backseatangel]

Fake it 'til you make it, huh?