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Ever since the State Supreme Court made its decision to change the ruling that Gays could legally marry, there have been so many articles in the newspapers. Below are some GREAT comments that I have read and just wanted to share with whoever reads this because they make some great points....
"If homosexuals "decided" to be gay, then the reverse must be true: Heterosexuality must be a lifestyle choice, too. What this means is that, at some point in their lives, these conservatives seriously considered becoming gay but then decided to pass. This decision must have been wrenching. And over time, their suppressed desires turned into self-loathing and disgust which they came to project onto others who, they believe, did not have the fortitude to conquer their attraction for members of their own gender. This internalized homophobia is like bulimia of the spirit. Its victims starve their psyches by regurgitating their self-loathing. Truly straight people do not and cannot make a choice about their sexual orientation, just as gay people do not and can not choose. People who are comfortable in their own sexual personae are not threatened by the way the sexuality of others is expressed."
"you know, they also argue that if two gay guys or lesbians raise a child that they will be gay themselves.... well, hate to tell you this, I came from Heterosexuals... and guess what? I'm gay..... and most gay couples encourage their kids to be who they are... unlike Heterosexual couples who will dump their kid if they are gay or bi...."
"Yes, it is malarkey. The latter is the exact same as the former. "Everybody has the right to use these stairs, but if they can't walk, that's their problem." "Everybody has the right to drink from a water fountain, as long as they don't try to use the water fountain meant for US." In context of the issue (which, regardless of what the pseudo-Christians would have everyone believe, is about whether homosexuals in a committed relationship should be recognized by the state in the same way that heterosexuals are, and thus have the same legal benefits conferred), you just gave a textbook description of Separate But Equal. Which is unconstitutional."
And one more....
"I was baptized, raised in a catholic household, educated through a private catholic elementary and junior high, continued to be educated by a private catholic high school. I have read and been read the bible in its entirety multiple times, studied the gospels in depth. I have even had the privilege to learn about Judaism and the Muslim religion. So since I have resolved my credibility issues with you allow me to say this. Homosexuals are entitled under the California State Constitution to be married by the state. What you and many others can't deviate from is this, your religion and religious beliefs mean nothing to the rest of the citizens of California or the United States of America for that matter. And there are reasonable explanations for that, it is called the Constitution and Bill of Rights. If you are pure of heart you will be welcomed by St Peter. So please leave religion at home when you are trying to limit the civil rights of others, I tend to get protective of that."
That last one hits some what close to my comment...which was this
"Im gonna go out on a limb....and some may get upset but oh well. This whole thing is a WORD game people. Seriously. I am gay and to be honest, i could care less if i was "married". I dont need a specific title to justify who i love. I know how i feel and so does my partner/gf/wife/whatever word works for you. HOWEVER, the state and hospitals and other Places would not see us as "family" if we are not "married" and therefore would not give us info on our loved one if heaven forbid something happen to them and they end up in a hospital or worse, dead. If that were to happen, how do we determine or explain that we want our better half to have our belongings? Or how do we make sure that our better half is allowed IN the hospital room and able to take care of us when we are sick? This is NOT a religious thing but a HUMAN thing and how all of us as Humans want to love and be loved. So Marriage was instituted by God. Why do YOU care who gets "Married"? Does it affect YOU personally? Does God love YOU any less? No..."
The paper i posted that in only allows you 1000words but if i kept going i would have said...Does God love ME any less because im gay? Nope. He loves us ALL! Some would like to think that he hates those that do bad or that he hates gays because being gay is a sin. I was raised VERY religious and even I know that he still loves me, he MAY hate what I do and my actions and he may be disappointed. ONLY HE knows that for sure. All I know is that I have a good heart, I treat people the way "I" want to be treated and I deserved to be loved. The rest is between ME and God...nobody else. So all these people need to keep their religion and religious beliefs out of issues of the state and issues that have to do with the consitution and an individuals rights as a HUMAN.
"If homosexuals "decided" to be gay, then the reverse must be true: Heterosexuality must be a lifestyle choice, too. What this means is that, at some point in their lives, these conservatives seriously considered becoming gay but then decided to pass. This decision must have been wrenching. And over time, their suppressed desires turned into self-loathing and disgust which they came to project onto others who, they believe, did not have the fortitude to conquer their attraction for members of their own gender. This internalized homophobia is like bulimia of the spirit. Its victims starve their psyches by regurgitating their self-loathing. Truly straight people do not and cannot make a choice about their sexual orientation, just as gay people do not and can not choose. People who are comfortable in their own sexual personae are not threatened by the way the sexuality of others is expressed."
"you know, they also argue that if two gay guys or lesbians raise a child that they will be gay themselves.... well, hate to tell you this, I came from Heterosexuals... and guess what? I'm gay..... and most gay couples encourage their kids to be who they are... unlike Heterosexual couples who will dump their kid if they are gay or bi...."
"Yes, it is malarkey. The latter is the exact same as the former. "Everybody has the right to use these stairs, but if they can't walk, that's their problem." "Everybody has the right to drink from a water fountain, as long as they don't try to use the water fountain meant for US." In context of the issue (which, regardless of what the pseudo-Christians would have everyone believe, is about whether homosexuals in a committed relationship should be recognized by the state in the same way that heterosexuals are, and thus have the same legal benefits conferred), you just gave a textbook description of Separate But Equal. Which is unconstitutional."
And one more....
"I was baptized, raised in a catholic household, educated through a private catholic elementary and junior high, continued to be educated by a private catholic high school. I have read and been read the bible in its entirety multiple times, studied the gospels in depth. I have even had the privilege to learn about Judaism and the Muslim religion. So since I have resolved my credibility issues with you allow me to say this. Homosexuals are entitled under the California State Constitution to be married by the state. What you and many others can't deviate from is this, your religion and religious beliefs mean nothing to the rest of the citizens of California or the United States of America for that matter. And there are reasonable explanations for that, it is called the Constitution and Bill of Rights. If you are pure of heart you will be welcomed by St Peter. So please leave religion at home when you are trying to limit the civil rights of others, I tend to get protective of that."
That last one hits some what close to my comment...which was this
"Im gonna go out on a limb....and some may get upset but oh well. This whole thing is a WORD game people. Seriously. I am gay and to be honest, i could care less if i was "married". I dont need a specific title to justify who i love. I know how i feel and so does my partner/gf/wife/whatever word works for you. HOWEVER, the state and hospitals and other Places would not see us as "family" if we are not "married" and therefore would not give us info on our loved one if heaven forbid something happen to them and they end up in a hospital or worse, dead. If that were to happen, how do we determine or explain that we want our better half to have our belongings? Or how do we make sure that our better half is allowed IN the hospital room and able to take care of us when we are sick? This is NOT a religious thing but a HUMAN thing and how all of us as Humans want to love and be loved. So Marriage was instituted by God. Why do YOU care who gets "Married"? Does it affect YOU personally? Does God love YOU any less? No..."
The paper i posted that in only allows you 1000words but if i kept going i would have said...Does God love ME any less because im gay? Nope. He loves us ALL! Some would like to think that he hates those that do bad or that he hates gays because being gay is a sin. I was raised VERY religious and even I know that he still loves me, he MAY hate what I do and my actions and he may be disappointed. ONLY HE knows that for sure. All I know is that I have a good heart, I treat people the way "I" want to be treated and I deserved to be loved. The rest is between ME and God...nobody else. So all these people need to keep their religion and religious beliefs out of issues of the state and issues that have to do with the consitution and an individuals rights as a HUMAN.