Thor: The Dark World

[bagheera_san]

Just saw Thor. I think I can say this without it being a spoiler: after two movies in which my reaction to MCU!Loki was "yes... almost", this movie finally gave me the Loki I wanted :) Plus I think it's a cooler movie than the first Thor movie.

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[xparrot]

\o/ All this! The movie and Loki himself were both delightful - and YES I walked out of it cheering that Loki is finally, finally a trickster, more than a woobie or a supervillain or anything else! A drama-loving trickster, oh yeah. Especially his final gambit - my audience laughed and cheered him on the throne, too (Loki is a great villain because whether you love him or love to hate him, you're always excited to see more of him because he makes things *interesting*, and the end of the movie was a promise for much Loki to come!)

(and the world/Asgard-building was extra satisfying to me because the majority of it matched perfectly with my own fic'ed version of Asgard; I had more dwarves running around, but otherwise...)

[bagheera_san]

Yeah, it fits my headcanon, too. I also liked the Warrior's Three more in this movie because they didn't do much, but what they did was in-character and in aid of the story (the escape from Asgard sequence was great because it sort of followed that fairy tale rule of three with Sif, Volstagg and Fandral aiding the escapees one after another.)

The more I think about this movie, the more I love it :D

[dragonofmemory]

This was the first movie I actually liked Loki in. To be honest, I never quite understood why he had to be quite so angsty. Movie-verse Odin didn't seem that bad in the first movie and all his angst was ridiculous. This movie gave him proper angst, plus a side helping of peanut gallery snark that was awesome. It kind of made me want more fic of Thor not being surprised at all at being suddenly female.

It was a fun movie. I had some issues with it, but for the most part I did like it. I was a little sad that Christopher Eccleston was practically unrecognizable (with no real personality either). Then again, that might be because I couldn't understand any of the subtitles when he was talking since it was all in Chinese. So most of the Dark Elf bits were lost on me, sadly...

[bagheera_san]

Now that he's more tricksterish, I can actually forgive his angsty/supervillainish characterisation in the first two movies, because now it looks like character progression (not necessarily growth... but certainly some sort of development). Thor 1 was where his identity fell apart and he tried to destroy himself (symbolically via the attempted genocide of his own people, literally by jumping off the bifröst), Thor 2 is where he attempted to destroy the world around him (unless it WAS a long game against Thanos!) and going over the top evil in every way, ending with defeat. In Thor 2 he reached a low point while imprisoned, possibly only after Frigga's death (for which he may be in part responsible, given that he gave directions to the Dark Elves!) and after that it gets better, he maybe stops caring so much about who/what he is and just doing things.

The Dark Elves were just random stock villains, but they didn't need to be anything else, imo.

[dragonofmemory]

Yeah, I'm kind of feeling the same towards him now. But with admittedly less comic book knowledge to back it up. XD I need to try writing Loki again. The last time I did, I went with the Avengers characterization, but I think I'd actually enjoy him more now. Though admittedly, having him be downright nasty was fun too.

Hm. One day, I will see it with English subtitles. Then I can say if I agree with you. At the moment, I'm still clueless as to what any of that was about. The pitfalls of living in a place where you are effectively illiterate. I think I would have liked something more than a stock villain though. Malakith always seemed interesting, and it's a bit sad that he was uninteresting here. Still, the movie did work well enough as it is.