the peace prize

Oct 09, 2009 11:16

Hey! The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to give the Nobel Peace Prize to Barack Obama!

Congrats to all the Americans on my flist.

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baleanoptera October 9 2009, 09:27:38 UTC
For real. ;D

I'm not a huge expert on how the committee works, but the last few years they've explained that they want the prize to be not just of work already done, but supportive for people trying to change things. So I think this can be taken as the committee lending symbolical support to Obama.

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baleanoptera October 9 2009, 10:12:01 UTC
I agree with you there, and the feeling of "huh?" would definitely have been less if the committee had waited a few years before awarding it to him.

if we needed proof that Obama is restoring a bit of goodwill in the world for us, after 8 years of shame? Done.

Hey, we've always loved you - we just felt a bit awkward saying it with all the Karl Rove's and Donald Rumsfeld's running around. ;P

But seriously, I cannot see this award as anything other than a huge political statement.

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applegnat October 9 2009, 09:49:26 UTC
What, for not being George W Bush? LOL.

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baleanoptera October 9 2009, 10:08:39 UTC
Well, if the committee wanted to create a debate (and they probably did) then I'd say they managed it well. ;)

But as I said to lage_nom_ai above, I think it's to display international support tec.

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applegnat October 9 2009, 10:20:45 UTC
That was nice of them, but surely we cannot discount the backlash he will face, both at home and abroad, for being awarded an honour prematurely. I can smell the right-wingers stirring up the Antichrist rumours already! And how would his usually credible left-wing supporters defend this?

Oh well, I suppose there have been several less deserving awardees in the past. :D

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baleanoptera October 9 2009, 10:27:13 UTC
Yeah, the potential for backlash is clearly there. Though I cannot shake the notion that the anti-Obama league would find fault no matter what. When you declare someone to be the Antichrist/Hitler etc you're not exactly the most rational person to begin with.

I suppose there have been several less deserving awardees in the past. :D

Shall we say that among past award winners there are some interesting people? ;)

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meko00 October 9 2009, 14:24:22 UTC
Seriously, I hadn't access to any news media this afternoon as I was cooped up in the Humanities lab, so when someone told me I thought it was a joke. I still do. Really. It must be.

But I can kind of sympathise with the idea that a prize should be some sort of symbolical support and a guidance for future work, but really, saying that you want to change things isn't enough. It's like the well-known Cylon plan. Cynical, moi?

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baleanoptera October 9 2009, 16:08:12 UTC
*g* Actually my first response upon hearing the news was: "You're kidding?" And while I've come to accept that they were definitely not kidding, I cannot shake the feeling that perhaps it was a bit premature. I mean, why not wait until next year, and then give him the prize?

Cynical, moi?

Hee. Perhaps, but considering how political the Peace Prize has become I think a bit of scepticism is a good thing. To be more specific, I think it is a great thing to have a prize that rewards people working for a better world, but I think that for such a prize to be really valuable it must strive to be as apolitical as possible. Selecting someone like Obama (regardless of how great a person he might be) will be divisive simply because he is a political figure, and a rather prominent at that. Having a peace prize that actually increases the heat in a debate just seems to bring too much irony to the playing field ( ... )

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meko00 October 15 2009, 15:32:49 UTC
Mmm, for me, it resonates much more to give the prize to Muhammad Yunus and the Grameen Bank or someone like Hammarskjöld (though, giving a Peace Prize posthumously isn't really a guidance for the recipient as such. Of course, as a guidance for others...)

And yes, I think some sort of so-called apolitical level-headedness is a good guidance. I mean, of course we all have strong ideas about how we think life is and/or should be, but if we could all step away from the vitriol a wee bit...

And in reply to the comment on QoT's journal, well, erm, I wouldn't say that the Swedish Academy has been free from controversy. ;-)

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