We do learn through experience. It can be said that we learn things from our experiences such as how to drive a car or how to prepare a certain meal. ;-)
And it's not just "conditioning" it is also about how we react naturally to those situations. If I were to yell at two different people, one might yell back and the other might run away. Everyone reacts differently to different things. There is no one sure situation that will provoke the same response or form the same conditioning on everyone. So I guess my question is, what's your point?
Those different reactions are a product of each individual's social conditioning. The one that ran away may have been beaten as a child, while the other may have had 5 siblings and thus was generally friendly. That's all part of your conditioning. And in learning things such as driving a car, you read about it and observe others doing it long before you ever do it yourself. So you learn the process of driving a car through observation and then apply it when you finally get behind the wheel. Then as you begin driving, you adjust what you learned about driving to form to your character better. And character is formed by social conditioning as well.
I'm not sure how this can be disproven, it is just a way of combining moral theories and social theories. I guess it just goes too far back in the puzzle that is the human mind. That doesnt mean that its right, it just the mind is too much of a mystery to disprove that theory.
If you are going to say something, such as 'its just a way of combining moral theories and social theories' or that the theory can't be disproven, give an example or support what you said in some way.
Re: Jasonprometheus917December 17 2004, 11:15:11 UTC
The point is that he has a valid argument. Due to the complexity of the human personality, (as far as I know) it would take huge leaps in science to disprove his arguement.
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The only complete way to ignore social conditioning is if it didnt exist to you in the first place.
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And it's not just "conditioning" it is also about how we react naturally to those situations. If I were to yell at two different people, one might yell back and the other might run away. Everyone reacts differently to different things. There is no one sure situation that will provoke the same response or form the same conditioning on everyone. So I guess my question is, what's your point?
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And in learning things such as driving a car, you read about it and observe others doing it long before you ever do it yourself. So you learn the process of driving a car through observation and then apply it when you finally get behind the wheel. Then as you begin driving, you adjust what you learned about driving to form to your character better. And character is formed by social conditioning as well.
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If you are going to say something, such as 'its just a way of combining moral theories and social theories' or that the theory can't be disproven, give an example or support what you said in some way.
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