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Mar 01, 2005 23:08

JY and Stef and I went to New York last weekend. This was exciting, because I've never been there. We spent most of our time walking around Manhattan, which was kind of exactly like Toronto, except enormous, contained (on an island, as opposed to Toronto's infinite sprawl) and friendlier. Strangers talk to you, even on the subway, which never ( Read more... )

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tgrupert March 2 2005, 05:10:47 UTC
the only thing less apizing than that sign at gray's is 99cent pizza in hell's kitchen.

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barcoder March 2 2005, 05:39:41 UTC
haha, mmmmm.
i posted these pics like three seconds before you replied. how did you come across my lj?

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dinoadventures March 2 2005, 05:11:06 UTC
its called Grays Papaya.

It's the best hotdog in the city by far.


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barcoder March 2 2005, 05:38:29 UTC
YES! that's what it was! i like that sign on the other side, too: "recession special". thanks for the pics!

BTW, i don't know you either. welcome to my livejournal. how did you come across it?

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tgrupert March 2 2005, 05:40:39 UTC
http://www.nonexiste.net/lj.php

most reccent image scripts make me unbored.

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meowzah March 2 2005, 05:50:48 UTC

Way to go, fellow livejournal user! This pleases me because livejournal alone cannot fulfill my unsatiable voyeristic desires.

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meowzah March 2 2005, 05:46:11 UTC

A LIVEJOURNAL ENTRY! PICTURES! GREG DUBE! This is what the internet is all about.

I can't stop thinking about Times Square. It has permanently etched itself into my memory with all the seizure-inducing colours and movements and the palpable display of everything I hate. I think I'm in a sickly kind of love.

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barcoder March 2 2005, 07:25:48 UTC
i know... i want to go back. we didn't really have long enough to take it in, did we?

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holden_wake March 2 2005, 06:04:50 UTC
GREG, that pic of you at ground zero is awesome. You anti-capitalist eco vegertarian terrorist.

Glad you finally got to see NYC, one disadvantage of being out here is that I can't go to such awesome places. I suspect its something you wanted to see for while, very nice that goal was completed.

and people said hi? bizarre, i thought people would be even meaner. people talk more out here too, and people get mad at me for not saying hi enough to random people.

is toronto just breeding mean-spirited non-talkies or something?

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frandroid March 2 2005, 06:54:08 UTC
People in Toronto are fucking scared of each other. I bet you that most people in Toronto come from small-town Canada (for the whites, anyway). They imagine Toronto as this behemoth, The Big City. They're scared of the fucking place, but they got a good-paying job here so they moved.

I mean, it was only in 1970 that Toronto passed Montréal as largest city in Canada, and it really became a big city with the flight of old anglo money starting from the election of the PQ in 1976 up until the mid-1990s, when after the second referendum failed, the remaining anglos felt like they could stick around.

So all these people's kids are in their 20s and 30s now, growing up with the cloistered mentality of their parents. So we still have a generation left before we have a majority of citizens that start impregnating Toronto with "world class" attitude, whatever that is.

NYC, on the other hand, has been The Shit for ages, and has a strongly established base of people comfortable with themselves there.

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barcoder March 2 2005, 07:34:12 UTC
this is not a bad theory, f. we devoted considerable discussion during and after our trip to trying to figure out what accounts for the difference, but we weren't able to come to any convincing conclusions.

people in toronto ARE scared of eachother. i think that's what it is. its not that torontonians aren't nice, but we're like... more shy, perhaps? and yeah, maybe overambitious attempts at cultivating the "world-class attitude" might have something to do with it as well.

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barcoder March 2 2005, 07:29:03 UTC
thanks, brian!

yeah, i wasn't expecting the friendliness. and its not to say that people in toronto are mean, but they are certainly more timid than the new yorkers seemed to be. we had more people talk to us on the subway in three days than i've had people talk to me on the TTC in four years.

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the_watchmaker March 2 2005, 13:41:31 UTC
neat-o! but i must ask - why did you guys go to new york in the first place? and how did you get there - a road trip? and no pictures of your sweet ride?

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barcoder March 2 2005, 16:03:39 UTC
you're right, an oversight.

stef and i sort of tagged along with jay, who was going to visit lauren.

we got there on the bus, which was really long and uncomfortable. toronto - st. catherines - niagara falls - buffalo - syracus - and then NY via jersey. and the buffalo - NY stretch was kind of crowded. i think i would fly next time.

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mean_spiders March 2 2005, 18:06:10 UTC
i'd fly too, but...... muh jets in the shop. ha-hoo ha-hoo, hyuck.

sick. wicked sick.

P.S. whatever that guy said about torontonians being derived from small town ontarians.... fuck... its true... it's US! DUN-DUN-DAA!! we're the vermin! we're the invaders! we're the monsters of despair! AACK! YEGADS!!

lets all.. um.. move to montreal in the coming year / years.

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