It's only illusion then its gone....

[batman42]

The human world is just a series of nested illusions. These illusions are our beliefs about how reality is (as far as religion, philosophical beliefs, etc.) and our personal and social point of view (how we see others, how we think/want others to see us). They are individual and shared within social groups, not just immediate but in greater and

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hmmm

[noodlenaddle]

christ you are depressing today...although you say that sensations of touch are just electrical impulses i still think that the pain, or comfert i feel in a touch is the most concrete way reality can ever present itself. i'm *not* thinking about it anymore....

Re: hmmm

[batman42]

if you choose not to think about it you are adjusting your perception to do so, its a human thing to do. this is not a bad thing, its something everyone does to allow us to exist in a world where everything is based on perception and illusion. Yes, these impulses are the most solid way that reality can represent itself to anyone. not something to be depressed about because it changes nothing about our reality. its just something most people ignore.

[tobaselly]

sensation and perception.
sensation reads in what the oh so prone to error equipment that we have finds(basicly sight, hearing, smell, taste and touch) and then perception is how we interprete that data.
if there was a way to remove our perception we could see concrete reality.
for example a webcam that "sees" concrete reality atleast on the level that it was built. but when we then resee what it sees we apply our perception to it.

evil thing that perception.

[batman42]

to be human means to exist in a world of your own perceptions. One can take this as a weakness or a strength, because it allows us to create our world as we wish (if we have enough control and insight to shape our own perceptions and not be manipulated by outside sources too much).

[noodlenaddle]

GAH!

[tobaselly]

Hahahahahaha

[tanonomys]

Get back to work slacker...
anyway.. life is a shared illusion. There is absolutley no proof, beyond memory (yours and others), that anything has ever happened. It all breaks down to electrical impulses and what the brain does with said impulses. However that is the depressing science of it. I prefer that it all comes down to the illusive soul, that thing that makes each of us who we are along with a life time of experiences....
And while what you say could be true, when we accept what happens around us as fact it is so. Truth is a personal thing...
*All spelling and grammatical errors are your fault... if only you had perceived them properly...

[batman42]

This isnt some vain attempt to prove reality or to disprove it. But in what sense do you mean 'shared illusion', and how and why do you believe that to be so? Granted there are levels of shared perception but even the most attached people (siamese twins?) each have separate perceptions on reality.

See the bit about drops of water... illustrates my ideas about merging social perception pretty well.

[tanonomys]

even though people will not always percieve the same thing, chances are similiar life experiences will lead to viewing things in a similiar way.