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Oct 18, 2009 20:35

...When does 'for the greater good' stop being an explanation and start being an excuse?

And who decides what the greater good is, anyway?

[OOC: This is posted on Friday, after the log with Sasuke. She spent the night in Gryffindor Tower, feel free to note this or not as you will <3]

for the greater good, tired, i don't understand and i hate that, why?, sasuke: has his own tag

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heh. Jim's dad died for the 'greater good'... chairismine October 18 2009, 09:57:45 UTC
It's always an excuse, Sakura.

Though- though that doesn't mean that its always a lie.

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Sakura is not quite sure how to deal with srsjim battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 10:03:31 UTC
How do you know? I mean...it all depends on a person's perspective anyway, doesn't it? You think it's always an excuse. Other people might think it's always an explanation. I don't think I worded the question very well, maybe I should change it.

How do you know when it is or isn't?

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\o/ and Jim is too srs to tease her about it. :/ chairismine October 18 2009, 19:00:32 UTC
Excuses are explanations, Sakura.
The difference is, using 'excuse' implies that you're aknowledging that the actions are less than completely favourable.

... It hurts more when you know it isn't a lie.

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battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 19:05:04 UTC
I don't know. I was thinking more along the lines of an excuse being trying to escape or lessen the blame. Maybe I meant...when does it stop being a legitimate excuse?

...I can see how that would work.

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Private (because it's storytime) bountyandbeast October 18 2009, 16:22:28 UTC
Lemme tell you something, Pinky. When I was a bounty hunter, I had to find a lot of guys who deserve to have their heads kicked in. But there were also jobs for kids. Kids, damn it. But I knew that because of my job I could say no. Not because the job was too dangerous and not because I didn't need the money, but because at the end of the day, I had to answer to myself.

Damn, now I actually feel old. Telling stories to kids already? I should be in a home.

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Private battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 18:32:42 UTC
But you had a clear moral guideline there, and you only had to answer to yourself.

If...if someone with power hurts someone whose has less power, but is trying to get more...and the way they're trying to get more with result in someone else getting hurt...

Okay the only thing coming out of this is that power is stupid.

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Private bountyandbeast October 19 2009, 16:41:14 UTC
The point is, it's the person using it that's stupid. They say power corrupts, but I've seen some good people with power, as hard as it is to believe. You act like you don't know who to answer to, but you're old enough now that you should only have to listen to yourself.

You're a smartie, Sakura. Pull yourself back up and dust yourself off.

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rasenganparty October 18 2009, 17:23:43 UTC
What's wrong, Sakura nee-chan?

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battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 18:35:57 UTC
Nothing's wrong, Konohamaru ♥ I've just been thinking about some things.

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rasenganparty October 19 2009, 00:11:45 UTC
Are you sure? Because it sure sounds like something's wrong.

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battle_in_bloom October 19 2009, 01:32:27 UTC
It's fine, I promise. You know what Ravenclaws are like.

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scroll_heir October 18 2009, 17:41:27 UTC
Explanations are excuses, depending on the story.

... We decide the greater good, Sakura. Individuals decide what that is, because how can there ever be just one set answer?

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Sakura is getting all Ravenclaw on her. ANSWERS DAMNIT, NOW. battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 18:44:50 UTC
What if the situation isn't about individuals? I just - who can claim the moral superiority to decide that!? What if you choose wrong? Who decides if you choose wrong?

I hate that there aren't any answers to this!

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D= Some things have no answers! scroll_heir October 18 2009, 19:00:33 UTC
Anybody could claim it... Whether or not, you know, anybody else agrees is an entirely different matter...

How do you know that you even chose wrong in the first place?

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She knows, she hates that :| [Private] battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 19:09:21 UTC
I'm trying...to figure out if I agree or not. I can't tell. I can't tell what was right or wrong and who made the right choices and to what extent.

I'm sorry, my head is about to explode, I didn't sleep very well last night.

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catcrossedpath October 18 2009, 20:05:17 UTC
The moment men claim they are working for the greater good they have lost their way. They see the greater good as securing their own power, and never question if that is good for all or just for them.

Those who put themselves in a position of judgment over others can never claim the moral high ground. Perhaps what they did was necessary, but that does not excuse them from the consequences. Those who act for the greater good should be willing to step forward and be punished for what they have done, not hide behind slogans.

My Sakura, this certainly is a heavy topic for idle musings.

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battle_in_bloom October 18 2009, 20:33:42 UTC
That...

That makes the most sense so far. It's still not really an answer, but--

You're so right. Thank you, sensei.

I'm a Ravenclaw; this is the sort of thing we do for fun.

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catcrossedpath October 18 2009, 21:05:19 UTC
There are few absolute answers in this world Sakura. That is why we need to always ask questions.

You're welcome.

Of course. If you feel the need for any more musings, my door is always open.

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